My entire musculature system needs to basically be reconfigured, retrained, now that all the fractures have healed.
My PT told me oh yeah, your nervous system has gotten so accustomed to being in constant pain that you basically go from a background level of 8 out of 10, which you now find generally tolerable, to 10, which you find immensely painful, whenever… well pretty much any tendon or muscle on your right side goes ‘‘just slightly’’ out of its safe range of motion.
Don’t even have painkillers, by the way. Just ibuprofen and acetometaphen.
I’ve been immobile, literally bed ridden, for the past 6 months, barring the excrutiatingly painful PT routine, hobbling to the bathroom/shower (got a shower seat), and microwaving soup or whatever.
Typing these messages is quite painful, but it does actually count as part of the PT if I use the right position/grip.
I will probably be in aquatherapy for at least another 3 months, if not 6, or 12.
A local charity drives me to and from the visits… which i hobble out to the car in my braces, with my cane.
… You’re not gonna theory craft your way into a more effective mobility solution for my entire life situation than myself and my doctors, unless that involves cashapping me several thousand or tens of thousands of dollars.
Dude, I’m truly sad that you felt like you had to explain your issues with them. These guys acting like asshats think that they’ll be healthy forever and have money no matter what. That might be true, but it also might not. I think these diehard bicyclists have too much testosterone or something. I really don’t know what it is, but they act super smug and entitled when it comes to bikes vs cars.
I’m used to casual ableism in general, but these folks have some weapons grade, fucking Clydesdale, Belgian Draft level high horses they rode in on to this discussion.
Normally when you just point out… hey disabled people exist, 99% of people go, oh fuck, shit, i forgot… good point…
Years ago I noticed a trend on Seattle based subreddits that… there’s a lot of just unbelievably perma online debatelord bullshit culture going on.
I know there was some massively stupid meta drama with there being like dueling Seattle subreddits and I think a third one at one point?
Its like tankie levels of utter certainty that anyone who could ever disagree with them on any minor issue, or even the precise language or framing talking about such is obviously a bad faith shit disturber employed by the CIA to detract from the… whatever worldview it is they have… which they also just… assume you already know all the details of… before you ever talk to them.
My guess would be these people are basically trauma molded by that, and brought it here to lemmy.
…
I ran into another person yesterday in some other thread, a meme about jesus telling people to cut off the tips of their dicks.
I threw in some historical background about why it is that… that’s really only an American Christian thing.
… and some rando is like ‘oh my god. i just got here from reddit and I am SICK of people obsessing over male circumcision, its not that big a deal, why are people here like this too, not a good look lemmy!’
Told im Ive been using lemmy for over a year (recently switched over to dbzero because yargh mateys!)… and I’d never even brought up this topic before.
He replies that he is going to rebutt any discussion of male genital mutilation anywhere he sees it!
… And I laugh at his hypocritical understanding of the word ‘obsession’.
…
Maybe we need like some kind of resocialization, decompression zone, type of comm.
Gotta unlearn the hyperdefensive reflex, the undo the antisocial personity disorder that happens when you OD on toxic corpo social media.
… Either that or if these people actually ride bicycles, and don’t just debatelord about them on the net…
One good T-Boning on a bike by a car running a red at 30 mph and they’ll be about as fucked up as I am.
I was there for 4 Seattle subreddits, lol. Those guys were Doug, CharlesGrodinFan, Rainier?, etc. Doug found me over here awhile ago.
They were trolls, I’m pretty sure Rainier was a legit Russian troll. He would change personalities during the weekends and forget entire discussions, so I think his account was a russian account. He kind of admitted it early on once, before they all got better at it. Too bad, he was super smart and funny. The rest are Maga trolls.
As for the bicyclists, I think they might be doing this type of shit (same as in this thread). I’m not 100% that they’re legit bicyclists.
“Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream – people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people, or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc).”
The goal is to keep opinions we don’t want fragmented and from coalescing in to a single voice for long enough that the memes we do want can,…
They were trolls, I’m pretty sure Rainier was a legit Russian troll.
Wow, that just activated a bunch of unpleasant memories.
Yeah, I concur, that guy was a legitimate Russian troll, and yeah Doug I remeber being the most ludicrous infuriating asshat.
As for the bicyclists, I think they might be doing this type of shit (same as in this thread). I’m not 100% that they’re legit bicyclists.
Every actual avid bicyclist I ever knew irl is basically the exact opposite of a person who would… you know, spend all their time on an internet forum?
Granted, this was about a decade ago now, but… I remember actually having to explain the concept of an internet forum to a few of them… ‘wait, its like a blog, but … its like… everyone’s blog?’.
As for the troll tactic, yep that defines it perfectly.
Manipulate social dynamics by identifying and trolling influential thought leaders, as opposed to just bullying randos. Make group cohesion impossible with constant petty drama bullshit to defame people.
… pretty sure the internet was basically a mistske at this point rofl.
Frankly, that does not sound like 2 functional limbs. Now consider that it would be easier for your charity team to drive you around if there was less traffic. Meaning the more healthy people cycle, the less traffic there is (assuming there’s bike infrastructure, which is much cheaper than car infrastructure) the better you can get around. Alternatives to car driving even helps people who are actually dependent on the car.
… Fucking obviously duh, yes, if abled bodied people generally got around via actually safe, seperated bike lanes, or busses, or light rail, or trolleys, or trains, then of course this would generally reduce traffic and generally improve other transit options within an urban area.
But the inciting incident of this whole discussion is:
People should just bicycle tens or hundreds of miles to get to national parks far away from urban areas.
This is still an absurd suggestion, even generally, for most people of average health/fitness/ability.
Ebikes are still not even a sensible solution to this in a practical, affordability sense: Entry level motorcycles have greater ranges, speeds, more comfortable rides at the same price point as an Ebike that has roughly half the range and speed.
Nobody even legally can drive an Ebike on a highway with a minimum speed limit of 50 mph.
Please learn how to read the entire context of a discussion before jumping into it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handcycle
Cool.
Anyway, my right wrist, and arm and right leg are royally fucked up.
What about amputees?
People with muscular dystrophy?
People prone to seizures, spasms, fainting?
People with unhealthy hearts?
People who are blind, or deaf?
Is your right arm or your left arm fucked up? If you have at least two functional limbs, there’s probably a way to make this work.
My entire right side is fucked.
My entire musculature system needs to basically be reconfigured, retrained, now that all the fractures have healed.
My PT told me oh yeah, your nervous system has gotten so accustomed to being in constant pain that you basically go from a background level of 8 out of 10, which you now find generally tolerable, to 10, which you find immensely painful, whenever… well pretty much any tendon or muscle on your right side goes ‘‘just slightly’’ out of its safe range of motion.
Don’t even have painkillers, by the way. Just ibuprofen and acetometaphen.
I’ve been immobile, literally bed ridden, for the past 6 months, barring the excrutiatingly painful PT routine, hobbling to the bathroom/shower (got a shower seat), and microwaving soup or whatever.
Typing these messages is quite painful, but it does actually count as part of the PT if I use the right position/grip.
I will probably be in aquatherapy for at least another 3 months, if not 6, or 12.
A local charity drives me to and from the visits… which i hobble out to the car in my braces, with my cane.
… You’re not gonna theory craft your way into a more effective mobility solution for my entire life situation than myself and my doctors, unless that involves cashapping me several thousand or tens of thousands of dollars.
Dude, I’m truly sad that you felt like you had to explain your issues with them. These guys acting like asshats think that they’ll be healthy forever and have money no matter what. That might be true, but it also might not. I think these diehard bicyclists have too much testosterone or something. I really don’t know what it is, but they act super smug and entitled when it comes to bikes vs cars.
I appreciate the sentiment.
I’m used to casual ableism in general, but these folks have some weapons grade, fucking Clydesdale, Belgian Draft level high horses they rode in on to this discussion.
Normally when you just point out… hey disabled people exist, 99% of people go, oh fuck, shit, i forgot… good point…
Years ago I noticed a trend on Seattle based subreddits that… there’s a lot of just unbelievably perma online debatelord bullshit culture going on.
I know there was some massively stupid meta drama with there being like dueling Seattle subreddits and I think a third one at one point?
Its like tankie levels of utter certainty that anyone who could ever disagree with them on any minor issue, or even the precise language or framing talking about such is obviously a bad faith shit disturber employed by the CIA to detract from the… whatever worldview it is they have… which they also just… assume you already know all the details of… before you ever talk to them.
My guess would be these people are basically trauma molded by that, and brought it here to lemmy.
…
I ran into another person yesterday in some other thread, a meme about jesus telling people to cut off the tips of their dicks.
I threw in some historical background about why it is that… that’s really only an American Christian thing.
… and some rando is like ‘oh my god. i just got here from reddit and I am SICK of people obsessing over male circumcision, its not that big a deal, why are people here like this too, not a good look lemmy!’
Told im Ive been using lemmy for over a year (recently switched over to dbzero because yargh mateys!)… and I’d never even brought up this topic before.
He replies that he is going to rebutt any discussion of male genital mutilation anywhere he sees it!
… And I laugh at his hypocritical understanding of the word ‘obsession’.
…
Maybe we need like some kind of resocialization, decompression zone, type of comm.
Gotta unlearn the hyperdefensive reflex, the undo the antisocial personity disorder that happens when you OD on toxic corpo social media.
… Either that or if these people actually ride bicycles, and don’t just debatelord about them on the net…
One good T-Boning on a bike by a car running a red at 30 mph and they’ll be about as fucked up as I am.
Happens every day.
I was there for 4 Seattle subreddits, lol. Those guys were Doug, CharlesGrodinFan, Rainier?, etc. Doug found me over here awhile ago.
They were trolls, I’m pretty sure Rainier was a legit Russian troll. He would change personalities during the weekends and forget entire discussions, so I think his account was a russian account. He kind of admitted it early on once, before they all got better at it. Too bad, he was super smart and funny. The rest are Maga trolls.
As for the bicyclists, I think they might be doing this type of shit (same as in this thread). I’m not 100% that they’re legit bicyclists.
https://archive.is/PoUMo
…there were FOUR?! jfc…
Wow, that just activated a bunch of unpleasant memories.
Yeah, I concur, that guy was a legitimate Russian troll, and yeah Doug I remeber being the most ludicrous infuriating asshat.
Every actual avid bicyclist I ever knew irl is basically the exact opposite of a person who would… you know, spend all their time on an internet forum?
Granted, this was about a decade ago now, but… I remember actually having to explain the concept of an internet forum to a few of them… ‘wait, its like a blog, but … its like… everyone’s blog?’.
As for the troll tactic, yep that defines it perfectly.
Manipulate social dynamics by identifying and trolling influential thought leaders, as opposed to just bullying randos. Make group cohesion impossible with constant petty drama bullshit to defame people.
… pretty sure the internet was basically a mistske at this point rofl.
Frankly, that does not sound like 2 functional limbs. Now consider that it would be easier for your charity team to drive you around if there was less traffic. Meaning the more healthy people cycle, the less traffic there is (assuming there’s bike infrastructure, which is much cheaper than car infrastructure) the better you can get around. Alternatives to car driving even helps people who are actually dependent on the car.
… Fucking obviously duh, yes, if abled bodied people generally got around via actually safe, seperated bike lanes, or busses, or light rail, or trolleys, or trains, then of course this would generally reduce traffic and generally improve other transit options within an urban area.
But the inciting incident of this whole discussion is:
People should just bicycle tens or hundreds of miles to get to national parks far away from urban areas.
This is still an absurd suggestion, even generally, for most people of average health/fitness/ability.
Ebikes are still not even a sensible solution to this in a practical, affordability sense: Entry level motorcycles have greater ranges, speeds, more comfortable rides at the same price point as an Ebike that has roughly half the range and speed.
Nobody even legally can drive an Ebike on a highway with a minimum speed limit of 50 mph.
Please learn how to read the entire context of a discussion before jumping into it.