• witnessbolt@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    Yeah go away with the propaganda. Trump has been laundering Russian money since the 80s. Trump’s 2016 campaign was littered with connections to Russia.

    You have fallen for the conspiracy theory that it was a “Russia Russia Russia hoax”

    Mueller explicitly said that he could not exonerate Trump; if he could, he would. Instead, he outlines that the Trump campaign refused to cooperate and that Trump himself specifically obstructed justice in the case preventing Mueller from completing it – and so he (Mueller) would follow the sitting DOJ guideline a sitting president cannot be indicted. That explicitly outlines additional criminal activity by Trump to prevent identification of any connections he might have to Russia. Meanwhile, some of his staff went to prison.

    You are the one thinking in black and white. Once again, as I’ve said many times, I am not advocating for marching on Russia. But they said they would destroy us from within in the 90s; once again, they created additional doctrine called Project Russia around 2009-2010 that was also used in military psyops.

    I don’t really wanna hear “there’s no mastermind or masterplan” nonsense from the party that cried about “the deepstate!” and “stolen election” for 8+ years. The party that decried “new world order” for decades and went on the red scare calling people communists (and in fact to this day use “communism” and “socialism” as scare tactics)

    I am not claiming our internal issues are not also a problem. But you are an absolute clown & fool if you cannot see the connections to Russia. We literally put Paul Manafort in federal prison for related charges, no? And at least 1 other campaign staffer?

    And now we are handing Ukraine to Russia on a silver platter. Not demanding anything of them – and the absolute clown of a proposal our guy offered literally partitioned Ukraine in a way that set it up so that Russia could regroup and take the rest of it later.

    Seriously. I’m aware there might be a little bit of irony in this statement, but it. is. not. even. hidden. anymore. “Rather Russian than a democrat”, remember? --> anyone denying the connections to Russia is a fool, or a traitor. Period. You can let me know which you are. Once again, I’m aware there might be some irony… but unlike in the red scare, MAGA is actually damaging the US irreparably – and at least some of it has clear connection to, and benefits, Russia.

    Not to mention that the overall destabilizing of the US and its isolation from the world literally hands global power to Russia and China…

    So what is it; fool, or traitor?

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      The issue isn’t Trump. Trump should be in a mental institution. The issue is that we build a world that “allows” for such people to gain power. The issue is that our news and social media allow a (very real) Russian psyop. But it’s not just the Russians. It also came from special interests like fossil fuel, China, and formerly Ukraine too.

      You’re loudly yelling at the dog tearing up the flower beds, instead you should be yelling at those who let the dogs out.

      But instead of talking about that, we’re talking about the latest bullshit that is being pumped into the ether. Stop the shit-factory. Nationalize the news and social media and turn them into cooperatives run by the workers. Arrest the billionaires. Take the power back. Of course now it’s too late for that, thanks Obama.

      But this isn’t even thinkable for the majority. Hence you seek some bad guy you can blame.

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        I mean I hear what you’re saying, and I actually agree with several points, but my first response is good luck getting people to hear you about the poison that is social media or your plan for traditional media (& I don’t wanna say the bad words but you know which words the folks on the right will call that – obviously they are fearmongering) while we are dealing with literal Nazis deporting people and inching ever closer to deporting perceived enemies, LGBTQ/trans folk, liberals, etc. In fact I have told anyone I can in Canada/other countries I know or come into contact with to contact their government and advise them to take action against social media to prevent more Elon Musk-like abuse.

        I am 100% interested in implementing what you’re saying - it’s one of the first real proposals I’ve heard for helping deal with this mess - but these things are only going to be able to be dealt with when we aren’t at risk of shipping even more legal immigrants or our own civilians to foreign prison camps. You are missing the forest for the trees because of your desire to fight the, and your anger at, the system.

        I agree the system is broken. You are 100% right we wouldn’t be here if it hadn’t been able to be abused to this extent in the first place.

        But we are here and we have to deal with the cards we are given - and considering they’re starting to ramp up social media monitoring for folks that are “pro Palestine” or “anti semitic”, it’s fairly safe to say that’s beyond a slippery slope to changing the search terms to being anti-Trump.

        He’s literally revoking the security clearances of people that investigated him and threatening to prosecute them. That’s literally political prosecution unless you continue to deny Russia connections like a fool/traitor. He’s literally talking about how he wants to pursue sending American civilians that are prisoners, to foreign prisons. Just like Nazi Germany started doing to the Jews.

        I say this gently because, assuming you’re a real person I again agree with some of your thoughts and think they’re worth expanding on:

        get your head out of your ass. It is astonishing that you can dare make claims about the “dog tearing up the flower bed” within this context. If you think “it could never happen here,” then why are we still waiting on them to bring back the man that the Supreme Court said that the admin must bring back, and that we are supposedly paying El Salvador to house since they are still technically OUR prisoner?

        You should actually read the article I posted. It calls this out directly – in that continue down this path and it’s likely you aren’t going to see reality until a military boot kicks you in the balls.

        Project2025.observer <— a website tracking the progress of P2025’s phase 1 public goals. Take a look. It’s already like 50% complete.

        Project2025 ends with Trump calling the Insurrection Act and using its powers to attempt to remain a dictator. Everything I have shared with you backs up that the plan is to make Trump into the “CEO dictator” of the United States.

        Is this really what you would have been shouting about in Weimar Germany before the Nazis seized absolute power? That we should be focused on some other issue instead of STOPPING THE NAZIS???

        "in July 1932, the National Socialists had attained but 37 per cent of the vote. But the 63 per cent of the German people who expressed their opposition to Hitler were much too divided and shortsighted to combine against a common danger which they must have known would overwhelm them unless they united, however temporarily, to stamp it out.”

        Excerpt From The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich Shirer, William

        They’re already in power. They’re working to ensure that they can stay in power. They are deporting people en masse, even people here on legal asylum. They are threatening to ship American prisoners there. Both Trump and Musk have made comments about wanting to jail people they view/claim as funding anti-Tesla protests (largely in reference to the damage being done but every single step brings us closer to outright targeting of anyone the right doesn’t like.)

        You know it’s true. They already make jokes about how all of us have “TDS.” They joke about how liberalism is a mental illness. Do I have to continue to beat the danger into your head?

        4chan is in power now. 4chan is not joking. Trump is not joking. Continue to ignore it and the Republic is lost. the world will be lucky if Europe and the rest of “the West” survive China/Russia expansion. We already know China is eyeing up Taiwan. You think with how Trump is handling Ukraine, he’s gonna put much effort into helping Taiwan? Continue to ignore it, and the entire world is in peril. It’s not hyperbole. It’s not a joke. It’s not trolling.

        It’s only gonna be trolling till the first few people get killed by MAGA like Proud Boys, or ICE. Mark my words.

        Sorry yall, I’m a wordy mother fker. Probably got a little bit of diarrhea of the mouth. <_<

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          Dude, i read every word, and you are 100% correct. Im wordy too, but you’re a good writer, and your arguments are coherent and supported with sources, logic, and critical thinking, so no need for apologies.

          It’s only gonna be trolling till the first few people get killed by MAGA like Proud Boys, or ICE. Mark my words.

          He’s also contemplating paying compensation to the Jan6 Traitor/Terrorists. The most proven, violent, battle-tested MAGATraitors will now be on his payroll. These MAGA Psychos viciously attacked COPS for hours, they’ll go through peaceful protesters like a tank through butter.

          The 2026 mid-terms are shaping up to be a bloodbath, and he can’t afford to lose his already thin majorities in Congress. If the Dems take even one chamber, they will have control of investigative committees with subpoena and arrest powers (if they can be courageous and bold enough to use them). He can’t afford to leave it up to rigging, especially with so many states and districts across the country.

          Next summer (2026) will be the biggest protest season in American history. Every city will be having multiple protests over multiple issues, and by then the MAGA Nazis will have done so much ugly stuff to America that the citizens will be seething.

          HitlerPig will encourage his paid Brownshirts er, RedHats to infiltrate the protests and instigate violence. Then he will mobilize the authorities, and even the military, to quell the violence with even more ferocious violence. Imagine Tiananmen Square, but in cities across America.

          Around mid- to late-October, when its too close to the election for the courts to intervene, he will declare Martial Law and suspend the Mid-Term Election, until peace can be restored, which will never happen because he controls the violence.

          Once we miss the mid-terms, he’ll just ignore any SCOTUS decisions, and breeze right past the 2028 election, and anyone who hasnt already given up hope, will.

          I also think he will quit NATO, and join a new alliance with Russia, China, North Korea, etc., and will give Alaska to Russia, and Taiwan to China, as a show of good faith, because they promised that he could have Canada and Greenland. He’s that fucking stupid.

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        You’re loudly yelling at the dog tearing up the flower beds, instead you should be yelling at those who let the dogs out.

        That’s Putin who let the dogs out, and you’re denying it. Yes, its HitlerPig, and Skum, doing it, but they’re just Putin’s muscle. They’re the guys who break your legs when you dont pay the Boss, and they’re beating us up real bad right now.

        Get with the program, Comrade.