Summary

Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.

The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.

Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.

  • Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca
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    UK and Italy are playing Trump’s game. He doesn’t negotiate. He demands tribute and only honours agreements if they are a win for him and he feels like honouring it at the time. Canada has a Trump negotiated trade agreement - the best agreement ever, in his parlance. It is apparently not worth the paper it is written on.
    Countries must negotiate trade agreements - with everyone except the USA. And citizens must support their countries by not purchasing any thing from the USA. As for the few Americans that didn’t vote for Trump, so sorry but your fellow Americans still fully support him. So it isn’t “just Trump”, it is America that is the problem. Trump is simply reflecting who the majority of Americans really are.

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    Vlad Vexler makes the point that the point of is not at all economics but that it does have a basis in logic: it is about asserting that he can do this, that his political power is above economic rationality. It is a political move, not an economic play.

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      It’s also chaos.

      He’s making it so nobody can even trust their own country or economy.

      You just have to listen and trust him and Trump will make it right …

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    There is simple logic in it. Punish everyone, and then let them come to you asking for exemptions. Then he can demand things in exchange. After that it’s “Pray I don’t alter the deal any further.”

    UK already asked for an exemption and he said they should buy chlorinated chicken first. If every country responds in the same way and gives in he’s making bank. If they respond with a boycott on anything American, especially digital services, things get bad.

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    Trump’s government has made the US a village idiot - and if the idiot gets into a fight with the whole village, the idiot will have more bruises.

    Why he does that - I don’t pretend to understand.

    • Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip
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      He’s preparing for an authoritarian takeover.

      Almost every dictator in history enacted massive tariffs so they had a way to control the economy. Loyal businesses are given tariff exemptions while all the other ones are suppressed. That’s what Mussolini did, that’s what Putin did and now it’s what trump does.

      I’ll wonder if that “we need guns to defend ourselves against an oppressive government” statement was true.

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        All the guns on the world won’t do any good against a missile. Gun nuts are just waiting for an excuse to shoot their neighbors. Jokes on them because no gun can save them from getting 🗡 In their sleep or getting their food ☠️.

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      The village idiot has more guns than the whole village together. So I’m not sure he will accept the bruises.

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    Someone asked chatGPT how to apply tariffs to give America an equal playing field and it spit it a formula that looks shockingly similar to how trump calculated the tariffs

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    Have we forgotten that he has done this each month since he was Inaugurated?

    Today the stock market will crash on this news. The wealthy will buy on this massive dip, and in a few days, HitlerPig will announce that the countries on his list have responded to his tariff threats, so he is postponing them for a month or so.

    The stock market will recover a bit, and the wealthy will make a fortune. In a month, he’ll do it all over again.

    It’s deliberate market manipulation.

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        I’ve been using it ever since i heard thats what the younger staffers in the Biden White House called him. I found it simultaneously hilarious, vicious, and accurate. I encourage you and others to use it often.

        Agent Krasnov is an acceptsble alternative.

        Other suggestions:

        Kapo Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller (my favorite)

        Steve “Unwiped Asshole” Bannon

        Empty G

        Lauren Boobert

        Big Boobie Bondi

        Couchfucker Vance (not very original, but a good reminder)

        Gold Digging Whore (the Propaganda Secretary, I can’t be bothered to learn her name)

        Traitor also works for all of them. Nazi, too.

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      And we’ll all be destitute for it. Everyone loses when they do this, yes, even they do in the long run. Once nobody can buy a loaf of bread I’m sure we’ll collectively decide right at that moment that the rich actually do taste good and maybe they should pay more in taxes.

  • Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world
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    You know what’s fun? Cancelling stuff and citing the reason as ‘tariff-related inflation’. It’s too new and there is no response script yet, so customer service doesn’t really argue.

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    Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.

    Ahahaha. For a day, I want to be inside his head and see the world through his eyes. It would be the most valuable insight for humanity… If only to learn exactly what not to do.

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      No thoughts. Only anger at being confused.

      More then racism, Trump’s appeal is being a simple answer to a complex question. Which happens to mean racism when applied to race relations, but also harebrained economic policies or injecting bleach into yourself. This is the same man who used a sharpy to change the path of a hurricane on a map rather then admit he misspoke.

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      It would be like that scene in Braveheart, where the Prince is having servants walk in front of him holding a full length mirror, so he can constantly admire himself.

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    So, now $1 per banana is now real, wow. A complete bunch on my country costs that… We are banana exporters we are the banana republic…

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      I’ve been saying this for years - why does anyone listen to him? He has no credibility - his whole life bio shows this clear as day.

      • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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        Americans are trained from birth to value ignorance as the greatest virtue. Donald Trump represents everything that American culture venerates.

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          Failing upward. Trump Steaks, Trump University, hell, he couldn’t make money running a CASINO: Trump Castle Hotel and Casino, bankrupt. Trump Plaza Casino, bankrupt. Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts, and Trump Entertainment Resorts… all bankrupt.

          Now he can add the US economy to his trophy case of participation ribbons.

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      ok, then…

      i have a huge trade deficit with walmart.

      i buy way more from them than they do from me ($1200-1500 a year vs $0); just like the u.s. buys more from many countries than those countries buy from the u.s.

      like the leaky diaper’s new tariffsimport tax, i should charge myself a ridiculously high extra tax on purchases from walmart until they buy $1200-1500 a year of some mythical product from me to even out the ‘unfair’ imbalance?

      yea. that’ll work.

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        the “logic” is pretty much as you described it. Only, after charging yourself with the extra tax on Walmart purchases, you obviously can’t afford Walmart any longer, so you learn to make your own soap with ash and the fats of animals that you have started breeding in your own flat.

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          Or your neighbour does all the work instead of you, so you decide to buy soap from them. They’re next door, while Walmart is across the county line, so you decide you won’t charge yourself the extra self-tax with your neighbour.

          Walmart"s soap, which used to be $2, is now $3, while your neighbour’s soap is $2.50.

          A week later your neighbour sees that demand for their soap is huge because everyone is self-taxing. So they raise their price to $2.95 to make extra profit.


          In case you think this is just a contrived fiction, this is exactly what happened to many goods, like solar panels, with Trump’s first-term tarrifs. Americans paid over double the average world price for solar panels.

          Worse still, Trump knows this happened, yet somehow this time will be completely different. <sigh>

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        I think Trump doesn’t want to trade at all. He wants us to produce everything we need.

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              I am really afraid that this is what America is coming to. The problem is that we have a third of the country that supports the Mango Mussolini.

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                We’ll have to see if that holds true after people watch their retirements get obliterated by a drastic drop in stock values across the board. Biden didn’t do enough to show the people that the economy was doing well, and recovering better than other countries around the world, under his watch. Trump won’t be able to pin this downward economic trend on Biden cause it happened too fast and multiple sources have cited the import tax, or fear of them, at the reason for the stock market tanking.

                If owning the libs is so important that tRump voters will still vote for the ones actively hurting them, then those people are truly beyond help.

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          Well, artificially increasing the price of all the raw naturals we use to make those things will certainly help with that goal…

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          I’m actually pretty down with that that. We should be able and ready to produce whatever we need in case another country does what trump is doing or something happens that would prevent trade. If China attacks Taiwan, we should be able to produce our own chips. We should be able to function with as little dependence on other countries as possible.

          In no way do tariffs fix that. You invest in yourself, slapping your friends because they’re better than you at something is really fucking stupid.

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            He’s hoping the foreign companies are going to open up shop in USA to avoid the tariffs.

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              Which they’re not going to do as that takes time and meanwhile he keeps moving the goalposts.

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              Which they’re not going to do as that takes time and meanwhile he keeps moving the goalposts.

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            Meh, I think it’s fine and good for countries to specialize and be dependent on each other. Keeps the peace through mutually assured economic destruction. Global upticks in isolationism preceded the World Wars. Also, it just makes sense, because different countries have different resources, and their populations are differently skilled.

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        Sounds like you had better open a diaper factory in your house. Then you wouldn’t have to pay the tariff that you are charging yourself.

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      Thank you! Neither the BBC nor the Flemish public tv seem to say this yet (they just repeat the statement Trump gave)

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        This is the only person I have seen say this so I can only guess no one is repeating it but it appears to be correct when I checked a few countries.

        Its fucking insane to think Cambodia has a 97% tariff, and he thinks they are getting rich off of it.