I think the conservative com there got taken over by mods that aren’t right-wing and now exists to make fun of the right. I don’t particularly care but I can see why rightists might not love this.
Yes I actually tried joining a few conservative communities for rational and productive discourse. The “progressive” mods deleted my good faith posts and comments, brigaded and made outright hostile comments. God forbid people seek common ground and building bridges, rather than do the exact things we get upset with “the other side” for doing. They certainly have me not rethinking my values, but certainly rethinking with whom I want to align for the greatest good of our people as a whole, regardless of political leanings.
Unfortunately the only common ground online right now is toxicity, group-think, and mutual hostility. That said, I honestly think outreach to most people on the right is a waste of time, at least online. I’ve tried to educate people for so long but the cult mentality is too strong to overcome. Maybe a more relationship-centered approach could work, I haven’t tried this. But that would take a huge amount of energy and effort.
You’re generally right about group-think and hostility, but the couple of good-faith exchanges I had with right wingers may have gotten a couple of snarky replies (maybe pre-emptive defense from being heavily attacked, prior?) but also half-hearted attempts at engagement and addressing my points until the “progressives” came in and did what they do. It’s sad, I don’t even want to alienate others, preemptively, by calling myself that. Leftist definitely does that. And I’m probably some conglomeration of leftist and libertarian (in the global sense, not the Yankee sense) with a sprinkling of anarchism, somewhere in the mix. I’m not sure yet. I’m not exactly in the process of changing my core values, more somewhat refining them into a more mature form. It’s not quite personal anomie, but I haven’t found my solid footing yet on the shifting ground beneath them.
Anyway, thank you for a bit of understanding. I appreciate it more than you know.
I think the conservative com there got taken over by mods that aren’t right-wing and now exists to make fun of the right. I don’t particularly care but I can see why rightists might not love this.
Yes I actually tried joining a few conservative communities for rational and productive discourse. The “progressive” mods deleted my good faith posts and comments, brigaded and made outright hostile comments. God forbid people seek common ground and building bridges, rather than do the exact things we get upset with “the other side” for doing. They certainly have me not rethinking my values, but certainly rethinking with whom I want to align for the greatest good of our people as a whole, regardless of political leanings.
Unfortunately the only common ground online right now is toxicity, group-think, and mutual hostility. That said, I honestly think outreach to most people on the right is a waste of time, at least online. I’ve tried to educate people for so long but the cult mentality is too strong to overcome. Maybe a more relationship-centered approach could work, I haven’t tried this. But that would take a huge amount of energy and effort.
You’re generally right about group-think and hostility, but the couple of good-faith exchanges I had with right wingers may have gotten a couple of snarky replies (maybe pre-emptive defense from being heavily attacked, prior?) but also half-hearted attempts at engagement and addressing my points until the “progressives” came in and did what they do. It’s sad, I don’t even want to alienate others, preemptively, by calling myself that. Leftist definitely does that. And I’m probably some conglomeration of leftist and libertarian (in the global sense, not the Yankee sense) with a sprinkling of anarchism, somewhere in the mix. I’m not sure yet. I’m not exactly in the process of changing my core values, more somewhat refining them into a more mature form. It’s not quite personal anomie, but I haven’t found my solid footing yet on the shifting ground beneath them.
Anyway, thank you for a bit of understanding. I appreciate it more than you know.
There are plenty of conservative spaces online and it’s exceedingly rare where “good faith” and “rational” conversations are possible.
The fact that this one is a satire of that and folks are upset is hilarious to me
That wasn’t the sh.itjust.works or lemm.ee conservative communities.
lol before the takeover, every post made in there was kicked over and over like a sad puppy.