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    Agree, but I’ll say that Clinton and Bush had their fair share of fucking up the US.

    Clinton’s Neo-liberal politics weakened public support in favor of privatization and bush accelerated that while helping to advance christian nationalism and eroding personal freedoms.

    We’ve, no joke, not had a great president since Jimmy Carter and he was canned because of economic circumstances outside of his control.

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        Bro Glass-Steagall was repealed under his watch. These two things are on a whole nother level.

        When someone today tells me Trump is the worst President in American history, I instantly write them off in my head as Not A Serious Person. That unfortunately includes like 60% of all human beings I know.

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          When someone today tells me Trump is the worst President in American history, I instantly write them off in my head as Not A Serious Person

          There is a thing called hyperbole which doesn’t indicate everyone is a moron but you nor does it mean the person saying it doesn’t have a great point. Trump was fucking awful. How can you so neatly quantify how bad they all are? I think it’s pretty goddamned bad that Trump has eroded the concept of democracy and singlehandedly killed unknown tens of thousands of people minimum by downplaying COVID. Oh well guess I’m just a fucking joke for thinking for a moment that those two things could ever be worse than things Reagan did. After all, it’s all so cut and dried.

          Get off your fucking high horse.

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            No. Trump is categorically not even close to Bush or Clinton or Reagan—but that’s just my opinion. I think it’s rather you that needs to get off your high horse for behaving like a perfect hypocrite.

            Try to be less combative next time and it might result in an actual adult conversation instead of the aftermath of an adolescent hormone spike

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              Not looking to have a conversation. Just calling you on being an idiot, like someone needed to.

              but that’s just my opinion

              Yeah well if you’d just wrote that no one would be calling you an idiot. Even in that same sentence you present it as a fact. No, it is not clear how one would actually determine the worst president ever but it should be pretty acceptable to say it about a president that did thousands of horrible actions, without having some dweeb pretend they’re superior about the topic.

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      As a democrat, Clinton was lucky with a lot of economical stuff going his way, which overshadowed the absolute piece of shit he was, and how much he hurt the middle class. He was an absolute corporate hack.

      Sadly, with the 2 party system… He was the progressive choice, because as per usual the GOP was fielding full on religious lunatics.