• Bodongs@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m an example of a filthy casual reddit user who is really struggling to find value in lemmy. Finding an instance where local is of value is difficult, world may as well be “everything”, and “everything” is a nightmarish hodgepodge of memes for teenagers, furry porn, really niche technical discussions, and star Trek memes. I never stay in the app longer than a few minutes and I feel like I spend more time blocking weird porn communities than I do reading interesting articles.

    The other major issue is having to sort through the exact same article 60 times because people cross post not only to local communities but then also the same communities are duplicated on every instance. I’m probably going to abandon this soon unless I can find some kind of curated community list to subscribe to or something.

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      I don’t really get all the “‘all’ is bad” discussion. Isn’t that what the “subscribed” feed is for? Just sub to the communities that interest you and browse from there. Just like it was back on Reddit.

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        The big difference is 1. Finding communities is not easy. Can you name every one of your interests off the top of your head? 2. Just punching in communities from reddit 1 for 1 doesn’t work. 3. Content and user base. There are no discussions for my favorite podcasts here and if there are where do I find them.

        It took me a decade to build out a decent sub list on Reddit and I still stumble upon new interests now and again. I don’t know how to “stumble upon” decent communities on Lemmy and I’m sick of wading through cartoon horse cocks.

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        One thing I don’t like about the approach of blocking things is that the frontpage of reddit still allowed some level of discovery. If something in a niche community got hot enough it would break into my feed even though I didn’t subscribe to that community. It was a cool way to expand my content on an occasional basis.

        If I’m going to only view my subscribed list on lemmy then I have to also manually go out and intentionally discover new communities. That’s hard, because some of my favorite small reddit communities were ones I never would have thought to search for.

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          That got me very confused as I never had that happening on my Reddit feed. I had to go back to Reddit to notice that I actually had that setting disabled.

          Anyway, I don’t think something like that would really work on Lemmy. Reddit has his algorithm that devours your privacy, chews on your data and spits out results that may or may not interests you. Lemmy is much more simple than that. IIRC it’s “algorithm” is little more than a logarithmic curve and the (very based) devs are committed to user privacy, so your data will never get analyzed, not even to sugar coat your feed. For me it’s a feature, though I get that not everyone might feel that way.

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            the (very based) devs are committed to user privacy, so your data will never get analyzed

            All credit to the devs, but Lemmy isn’t great on privacy. Your votes are technically public, and there is no way to guarantee what you delete or edit is actually deleted and edited. You’re right the data is not used to customize your feed, but not because it’s private. It isn’t.

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              You are right. I don’t mind the upvotes being public, I do mind the deletion thing (although it’s an inherent flaw of federation, hard to get around it) but both are points against it having good privacy.

              I guess what I meant is that the platform makes no attempt at linking your online persona to anything else. It doesn’t even collect IP adresses and has very poor logging - btw this is actually a liability with the ongoing CSAM issue.

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            That got me very confused as I never had that happening on my Reddit feed.

            Same for me, and I never had trouble finding new content. Discovering subreddits (and communities) through word-of-mouth worked perfectly fine.

            Also, unlike Reddit, Lemmy has a community browser.

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        I mean, I use my LW account for local and lemm.ee for all (because it can see more posts). They are just… different, although I am getting pretty annoyed at the mass of r/politics level politcal discourse on the LW local feed.

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          What do you mean “it can see more posts”? I thought the point of world was that it was the general everything respiratory.

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            lemmy.world has been defederated and has defederated some pretty large instances. On the othe hand lemm.ee is probably the instance with one of the most open fed lists

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            Off the top of my head, LW accounts can’t see posts from beehaw, hexbear, or piracy communities on db0 due to defed/blocks.

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              Whaaaaaat. See this is the shit I’m talking about. Stupid I have to watch out for these kinds of pitfalls that I only know about because somebody happens to tell me.

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                I only know about because somebody happens to tell me

                I agree on that point, I have built a site to check for that https://defed.xyz but you still have to query each instance manually. It’s just the way Lemmy works, some research is required when creating your account. I could write you a whole spielt on what criteria you should look at but the short answer is that if you want something big that “just works” lemm.ee might be the place for you.

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                    a decentralized system NECESSARILY has these challenges. it’s a feature not a bug. if you want it to be easy then go back to Reddit where it doesn’t work for different reasons. this will never be that so either you accept this and learn or put up with spez type bullshit.