• lorty@lemmy.ml
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    21 hours ago

    The point I’m making is that they are receiving the weapons the US and Europe can make/spare, and they are still losing on the battlefield. If negotiating is not the way to go (as the meme implies) then what’s the way to victory? As it’s going, every man in Ukraine will die and they’ll still lose.

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      20 hours ago

      Oh, okay. So no need to fight wars anymore. We can tell who will win by eye. And the country who we eye-spot will lose the war should just throw away their sovereignty to the aggressors from the start since they can’t win.

      America spends the most on defense, so they’ll probably win in any war. Then, I guess America should just de-facto rule the world. United Earth of America, everyone. Resistance is futile.

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        19 hours ago

        So you think that if they keep fighting they’ll turn it around sometime in the future?

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      20 hours ago

      “Every man” will not die, because they intentionally not mobilising the young men. They also did hold for several months completely by themselves while West was scared and only talked about sending diapers & bandage. They also survived when US stopped their aid completely for 6 month. It’s been 3 years since the hold against a supposedly “2nd army in the world”, so they are definitely not losing. They did an incredibly well job given their resources, if they ask for more, who we are to decide for them?

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        16 hours ago

        “Every man” will not die, because they intentionally not mobilising the young men.

        You mean literal children and university-age “men”? I guess everyone else dying would be fair game though, right?

        What an insane statement.

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        19 hours ago

        They did an incredibly well job but are still losing the war and territory because Russia has more meat to throw on the battlefield and a bigger economy.

        Dragging the war with foreign aid is not providing any resolution, it’s making the EU look as weak headless chicken who can’t come up with a concrete plan to stop a war on its doorstep.

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          16 hours ago

          They did an incredibly well job but are still losing the war and territory because Russia has more meat to throw on the battlefield and a bigger economy

          Yup, unfortunately still loosing some territory while inflicting heavy losses to the other side

          it’s making the EU look as weak headless chicken who can’t come up with a concrete plan to stop a war on its doorstep.

          Yup, agreed

          Dragging the war with foreign aid is not providing any resolution

          “Dragging the war with current amount of foreign aid is not providing any resolution” FTFY

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        20 hours ago

        The only reason they haven’t lowered the age of conscription further is because it’s very unpopular and the current government can’t afford the political hit.

        They have resisted to the best of their ability, yes. No one can deny that, but even then they are being pushed back more and more as time goes on. And that is, in fact, losing. Specially in a war of attrition like we are seeing.