I met regular sized american bully while on a walk this evening, first time seeing one in person. Looks and behaves like any bully breed, a 3 year old in a muscle suit that could crush bricks. Definitely needs proper training by an owner but I wouldn’t say it’s that different from English bullterrier.
Bad rep for those dogs is mostly the looks. I own a bullterrier who made some people nervous / scared despite being a dumb but well behaved goofball. This changed almost immediately after one of his ears flopped due to a blood clot. I often joke that he lost all of the street cred and gets no respect.
If I want to buy a weapon, even for target practice, I need a license that is pretty hard to obtain. Why don’t we do the same with dog breeds that are known to maim children disproportionately to other types of dogs?
If you really are a great dog owner and your dog is really as friendly as you say, you wouldn’t mind having both of you tested once a year in order to prevent bad owners from spoiling the image of that breed.
Four dog breeds are banned in the UK - the Pit bull terrier, the Japanese tosa, the Dogo Argentino and the Fila Brasileiro
Dogs that share physical characteristics to banned breeds, such as cross-breeds, are also banned
Owning a banned dog can result in an unlimited fine and a prison sentence of up to six months
Times sure have changed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_the_lion
Christian the lion (12 August 1969 – ?) was a lion born in captivity and purchased by Australian John Rendall and Anthony “Ace” Bourke from Harrods department store in London in 1969.
Christian was originally acquired by Harrods from the now-defunct zoo park in Ilfracombe. Rendall and Bourke purchased Christian for 250 guineas (£262.10s.[2] in pre-decimal currency).[citation needed]
Rendall and Bourke, [3] along with their friends Jennifer Mary Taylor and Unity Jones, cared for the lion where they lived in London until he was a year old. As he got larger, the men moved Christian to their furniture store—coincidentally named Sophistocat—where living quarters in the basement were set aside for him. Rendall and Bourke obtained permission from a local minister to exercise Christian at the Moravian church graveyard just off the King’s Road and Milman’s Street, SW10; and the men also took the lion on day trips to the seaside.
Shelters are full of harmless dogs that need a home. It’s beyond me why don’t people feel the need to buy dogs that can potentially kill/seriously harm other dogs and even humans (including children)
Sadly, shelters are full of abandoned pitties and the like :/ People get dogs like they’re fashion accessories, and that becomes more apparent with breeds that are strong and determined enough to cause real damage. There’s a big overlap of wanting to own a dog to look badass, no actual interest in putting any effort into said dog, and a broader antisocial stance.
Yes I’m aware there are pitbulls in shelters also, but imo they should be left there. Even adopting one of those increases their visibility for then other irresponsible people to get the desire to get one. Honestly, if pitbulls were really banned (including the breeding of them) we would get rid of the pitbull problem in one generation. In shelters they could get the attention and care they need from responsible professionals with the adequate training
The dog breed looks like a small Pit Bull on Steroids. It legitimately looks like someone gave a dog muscle enhancers
Treat dogs like guns. People need to get a license (unless it’s in a rural area I guess) to own one and demonstrate that they would be good dog owners, and provide evidence of training or dog gets confiscated.
Treat dogs like guns.
Heh.
Over here in the States, that’d entail a constitutional right to own as many dogs as you want and take them around with you – though some states would require a license if you wanted to conceal the dog on your person.
I just saw an article the other day on how some place in the UK was banning people from walking more than six dogs at once because they considered doing so dangerous for other people, that the dogs couldn’t be adequately controlled.
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North Somerset.
conceal the dog on your person
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I’m packing a chihuahua in my back pocket.
In the US that would also mean that someone would set a pack of dogs trained to kill on their school or work place or church or movie theatre every other day and pro-dog politicians would claim that now isn’t the time to talk about restricting killer training for dogs right afterwards.
If we did that in the UK only a very small amount of people, usually in Rural areas, with justified reasons would be allowed to own a dog, and only the breed that meets the requirement of the job they want it to do.
So what you’re telling me is the vast majority of people are unfit to keep a dog then.
No, you said we should treat them like guns, in the UK very few people are allowed to keep guns so I was highlighting that it’s a silly analogy that doesn’t work in this country.
Oh boy. If you read what I wrote, you would understand the analogy ends at ‘needs a license.’ The license depends on ‘demonstrate that they would be good dog owners, and provide evidence of training or dog gets confiscated.’ People need a license to drive a car, by demonstrating that they would be good car drivers. Use that analogy instead if you like.
Who’s paying for and staffing the infrastructure to manage this in our already understaffed and underfunded public sector? There’s 12 million dogs already in the UK, not factoring new pet owners. That’s a huge undertaking. Easier to ban the breeds that are going to cause the most issues if not properly trained and managed than make all pet ownera have to be licensed.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Home Secretary Suella Braverman is seeking “urgent advice” on banning “lethal” American bully XL dogs.
The prime minister’s spokesman described the Birmingham footage as “shocking”, said the government took the issue “extremely seriously” and added that the law on dangerous dogs had been “toughened” in 2020.
Emma Whitfield, whose 10-year-old son Jack Lis was mauled to death in Caerphilly, Wales, in 2021, questioned why it had “taken this video and not a child’s life to do something?”
The American bully XL is not subject to any legal restrictions in the UK but advice on a ban was commissioned last week, an adviser said.
But Barry Gardiner, Labour MP and member of the Common’s Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (EFRA), told BBC News he did not think it was right to ban the breed, saying it was about controlling owners.
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She’s an absolute scumbag, but yes, certain dog breeds that only exist to be violent, such as Rottweilers, should simply be ended. That’s pretty obvious, I would have thought.
But… Violent people don’t care about the safety of others, and don’t see a problem with abusing dogs to get what they want out of them either.
Rottweilers aren’t known for being particularly violent though. Yes they’re big dogs, but they’re largely big softies personality wise.
Rottweilers are responsible for the second highest number of attacks after pitbulls. They seem to be at least more dangerous than the average dog.
Neither are pits
Clearly theres an issue with this breed given how many incidents they’re responsible for of late.
Maybe they attract a certain type of owner. Who knows…
Rottweiler’s were bred to herd livestock and pull carts. You might be thinking of Pitbulls or other dogs bred for violence.
You know nothing about dogs. If you raise them in an uun-abusive way they will not be violent.
Don’t be fucking surprised when a living creature lashes out and bites you after years of you hitting of yelling at it. Treat dogs with respect and they’ll respect you back.
If they happen to maim a home invader, who cares? They could have prevented it by being functional members of society instead of a scurge.
We need c/banpitbulls.
Please no. Regardless of your stance, that sub was a cesspool.
I’ve noticed most of these kinds of communities just end up filled with people missing a part of their soul who hate dogs in general rather than care about a particular breeds behaviour.
Please maybe? It’s a difficult topic, because the data doesn’t lie: Pitbulls are responsible for the most dog on human attacks in America, followed by rotties.
There’s nothing inherent in those dogs that would make them more dangerous, but a mix of bad training, being attractive to bad owners who want them for protection or to “look cool” makes us careful around these physically powerful breeds. Don’t forget that dogs like the Saint Bernard is also considered to be a “powerful breed”, yet you rarely hear of a Saint Bernard attack. Go figure, they don’t look “cool” and you can’t crop their ears to make them look aggressive.
I know some cute and shy pitties myself, but I know there are a lot of them that are trained to rip your face off.
They were literally bred to fight other dogs in pits and never give up. It’s deep in their brain.
