• rk96@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    Is this a memes community? Or a soviet shit hole? I escaped reddit because it was shit and the ultra gatekeeping communists shitfaces, I hate to leave lemmy because of this as well, not many capitalists around this site -_-

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      I’m deeply sorry that we don’t like supporting the oppression of marginalized groups here

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        Yes, as if communism doesnt support opressing literally everyone, you western “communists” are really special aren’t ya?

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          How do you oppress everyone in an economic model focused on worker enfranchisement?

          …or do you not know what communism means and just belive China, the USSR and DPRK when they say they’re communist?

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            Sooo there aren’t any examples of communism working but it totally is going to when done right! I could counter with “if capitalism was done right nobody would be oppressed and everyone would want for nothing”.

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              This really isn’t difficult stuff.

              Communism is based on worker enfranchisement and abolition of the commodity form. Where is the inherent incentive for autocracy, and what examples would you care to cite?

              Capitalism, on the other hand, naturally favours monopoly thanks to factors including economic power acting as political power, first mover advantage, and economies of scale. Capitalism has no inherent need to even be democratic. Your democracy is polluted by economic influence, your workplace is autocratic. What is there to get right that stops any of this?

              … But more importantly, how do you oppress everyone in an economic model focused on worker enfranchisement?

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                Free market doesn’t equate to capitalism. There are countless working capitalistic societies and none communist ones.

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          Love how you just assume I’m from the west. I’m eastern european, my family is also, and we lived through everything - and I’ve yet to meet someone other than western investors and young kids who thinks things are good/better now

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          Oppressing people is like 90% of what tankies that incorrectly insist they’re Communists do.

          FTFY.

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      I’m genuinely curious - what do you think communism is? There’s been a lot of definitions over the years and a lot of confusion over the subject, so I’m really interested to hear what do people such as yourself think communism really is that makes them hostile to the idea.

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        Myself? I like the dictionary definition of communism.

        I’m short, worker enfranchisement and abolition of the commodity form.

        Edit: Look at the definitely intellectually honest morons downvoting the dictionary definition of communism.

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          Those damn communists with their

          checks notes

          Asking what your interpretation of the word is so they can actually discuss the concepts

          Those bastards!

        • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.one
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          Completely unnecessary and hostile reaction ☹️

          Different cultures, education, experiences and upbringings lead people to have different interpretations of and feelings towards various ideologies. IMO It is only fair for OC to establish the definition first, rather than unknowingly discuss something completely different with the other user.

          Responses like this are why a shit ton of users on these platforms do your username and don’t interact with anything

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          It was a genuine question, but if I’ve struck a nerve with that somewhere, then I’m sorry.

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              Hey pal, stress is bad for the body. Can be as bad as chain smoking if you have chronic stress.

              Lemmy is full of leftists, and that looks like a trigger for ya. Just be safe out there.

              Also, grouping all communists together is exceptionally inacurate. Lots of variety in leftism. Obviously, if you are discussing politics with a leftist they’ll likely want to discuss the merits of “socialist ideals” with you.