• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 hours ago

    The correct way is to judge people for what they activelly support, which also means not slimly implying that by not supporting one side people implicitly support the other - it’s a perfectly valid position to not like any of the choices one has been presented with and thus chosing “None of the above” rather than A or B.

    “If you’re not with us you’re against us” is just about the most typically Fascist (and, more in general, authoritarian) argument there is, so those doing it don’t be surprised if, even if you’re wearing a different mask than outright-Fascist and claiming you have the moral high ground, you’re judged as somebody who thinks along the same lines as Fascists rather than along Democratic or Humanitarian lines.

    Mind you, the quoted post is impeccably fair in that sense, but here in Lemmy there’s a lot of people who, unlike that quote, stray beyond blaming people for their choices into parroting authoritarian logic that blames people for non-choices.

    • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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      6 hours ago

      Do you know who coined the phrase If you’re not with me you are against me? George Orwell. Even being ‘neutral’ means you passively support whatever bullshit the ‘winner’ wants to do. Inaction is as much a choice of action as doing something. If you have a fire extinguisher and there is a person literally on fire but you simply do nothing, you are as responsible for the person’s horrific death as the person who set them on fire.

      Saying ‘I am completely neutral in this regard’ when Elon Musk and his cronies are actively plundering the government and absolutely destroying the government’s ability to investigate the crimes and misconduct that they are committing, as well as destroying the livelihoods and lives of millions of people, means you are fully accepting of what is going on, that it is normal and if they want to do it, they can go ahead.

    • lennybird@lemmy.world
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      6 hours ago

      Haha wait a minute.

      Are you… Are you trying to justify your Uncommitted BoTh SiDeS bullshit?

      • As though drinking the lesser poison is as bad as drinking the greater poison.
      • As though this not only means you’re opting for this, but you’re contributing to the current that forces others to do the same by enabling the greater poison?
      • As though just because you weren’t necessarily the person to rat out Anne Frank, you also didn’t lift finger to resist the Nazi oppression that makes one superior? Looking the other way and sitting on the couch?

      Because if this is the case, then yes, there are people like me who utilize logic & ethics to demonstrate that said people are, indeed, a part of the problem and enabling of fascism.