• Zink@programming.dev
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    6 hours ago

    What people get mad at you about is your insistence that checking the box next to somebody’s name on a ballot is a gesture of 100% support for everything on their agenda and everything they have ever done.

    The genocide over there and everywhere else is not okay. The fact that the US supports it and does tons of imperialist shit is not okay.

    I voted for Harris and genocide is not ok. But you know what else? I have a smart phone and exploited foreign labor is not ok. I have to drive my old car to work and fossil fuels, greenhouse gas emissions, unwalkable towns, and microplastic pollution are not OK. I eat food, and both exploited underpaid migrant farm workers and corporation produced ultra-processed foods are not OK.

    The fact that the US is imperialist and supports Israel was simply not on the presidential ballot in the general election. That is not OK, but it is true. Changing that part of the world for the better means working to make the next election’s choices better, whether that means the peaceful rise of a charismatic progressive candidate or a bloody revolution accelerated into being by shot Trump is doing.

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      4 hours ago

      Thing is, the Biden Harris administration could easily have put a stop to it at the very beginning.

      Harris could have said that she was opposed to the way Biden dealt with the war.

      Neither of those things happened.

      Harris had almost 3 million less popular votes than Trump. If everyone single person who stayed home because of the genocide in Gaza had still voted for Harris, Trump would still have won that popular vote by a huge amount.

      I’ve seen articles blaming the Gaza vote for it. I’ve seen articles saying Latinos and black people moved to trump. I’ve seen articles blaming literally everyone except the fact that the majority of white people voted for Trump.

      That’s something that needs to be talked about. Why did a majority of white men and a majority of white women vote for Trump?

      Why were the democrats so establishment oriented that they have, since 2016, refused to run any single candidate who appeals to the people?

      Biden won in 2020 because of how badly Trump managed Covid. People did not vote for him because they thought he was a great candidate, they voted for him because Trump royally fucked up.

      Democrats are owned by the same billionaires and lobbyists that control the Republicans. If that entire system is not broken up, there won’t be any change whatsoever.

      Democrats could easily have gotten more votes if they campaigned on what the regular person was asking for, but they didn’t. They spent all their time campaigning with other right wing people. The fault lies at their door for losing this election. And since trump has come in, they have not even had a unified opposition to him - most votes have had some Democrats siding with the Republicans for confirmations, etc.

      If people spend the next 4 years saying see you should have voted for kamala instead of addressing the root causes of the issue, all that’s going to happen is that within the next 4 to 8 years there won’t be another election.

      The windows in the US has shifted so far to the right its not even funny. The democrats themselves would be considered a centre right party at best in most of western Europe.