I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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    That doesn’t change anything… but since my comments going to be arbitrarily removed then this i pointless anyway. Besides that you’re just going to keep being indirect just to waste time and dissolve the thread. Its not more important than the content, but it’s a good metric for gauging the audience

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      (I can’t speak to the actions of the moderators, alas.)

      Indirect discussion is usually the best way to approach a complex topic. Or a language in general, really. It’s the foundation of… well, rhetoric. It’s been a fascinating topic of discussion for (at least) 2000 years, if you’re at all interested in engaging with it.

      Downvotes are a modern implementation of a truly ancient concept here. It’s a pretty critical aspect of the comment system, or participatory discussion in general.

      Then follow me and give me audience, friends.
      Cassius, go you into the other street
      And part the numbers.

      I mean sure, he’s not referring to the number of upvotes and downvotes, but if any human being in history understood the role of the audience surely it was Shakespeare. “The audience can’t exist without the subject, but neither can the subject have import without the audience” and all that. It really is a fundamental aspect of human interaction, not just internet forums.

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        You should know i literally said “this dudes about to pull up a shakespear filibuster” and sure enough

        Im honestly glad i never went to college

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          Buddy the last time I read Julius Caesar was middleschool, I think a lack of familiarity has lead to faulty estimation of the relative complexity of the topics being discussed here.

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            Its actually pretty simple shit actually

            1. Don’t vote(invest in) for genocide. Red or blue version… or yellow

            2. create a new system that is not dependent on genocide/colonialism/capital accumulation etc. And divest from the old system.

            3. don’t blame victims of systematic violence for being systematically violated for not being systematically violated properly

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              It’s a bit more of a reduction than needed really, but I’m glad you can see how much better your point is communicated when you’re not defending yourself by dismissing your critics!

              (FWIW I do in fact agree with you.)