Not everyone thinks this, but I know an extreme right-winger who thinks this. He is also a conspiracy theorist who thinks non-white people are out to get white people so, yeah, odd.

Not every immigrant is illegal or bad. I know a girl who didn’t speak English for 3 years when her family legally immigrated, so of course she’s been told this.

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    “Shouldn’t that logic apply to…”

    One must remember that people aren’t logical. They’re hypocritical and willfully ignorant.

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    Whats worse is that the current administration has stated that native Americans are not US citizens and indigenous communities are being hassled hard by ICE right now. I don’t know what their plan for native people eventually is but it won’t be good and it won’t be to just leave them out of this.

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    You assume logic is behind their reasoning, that’s where you went wrong

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    Yeah we better start coming up with some paperwork that our great great grandparents were legal. At this point I’d be pretty happy to be deported to Germany.

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    Yeah these guys are radicalized extremists.

    You can’t tell if someone is “legally” in the U.S. by looking at them. You can’t tell if someone was born here by looking at them. You would think racism would be separate from the immigration panic because there is no way to tie looks to immigration status, but instead the logic is thrown out the window.

    My friend told me once “when a guys life goes to shit he looks for someone to blame.”. These particular guys have blamed some nebulous idea of “illegal immigrants” instead of women, or communists or whatever.

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    I think it’s as simple as this: people need an enemy, some person or group they feel is against them. Conservatives get off on having a victim complex, and will straight up make shit up against their opposition just to make themselves look like a helpless little child. “Oh no, what am I gonna do? Me or my granddaughter needs a job and I heard in the news they’re all being taken up by immigrants” meanwhile, the same person is being fed this information from the comfort of their couch.

    “The immigrants are taking our jobs” is a sentiment that I have seen at least in my part of the country go down in the last several years and im in a very conservative area. Simple fact is immigrant workers work cheaper and faster than others and they often do better work, people are realizing that.

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    I dont think they assume all immigrants are illegal. They talk about illegal immigrants. As in those that entered clandestinely without visa or entering permit or those that have their visa / permit expired. Correct me if im wrong.

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      No it’s the brown ones. They wouldn’t look twice at a pale person like Musk.

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        Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

        -Wilhoit’s Law

        That’s it. That’s all. They want an out-group to abuse. And they have to justify people being in that out-group, so they make them lesser somehow: they’re ‘stupider, crueler, useless to society’, unlike the Amazing and Super Perfect people in the in-group.

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    American fascism doesn’t care what’s true or what’s right. It cares only to kill and enslave people who are “undesirable”

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    Remember, everyone is a hypocrite. The USA is a melting pot of so many different peoples with about 250 years of history as a nation. My working theory is that has led to a nation-wide identity crisis: who and what am I. They are intensely occupied with their origins because the only people who have been on the continent for millennia (Native Americans) were brutally reduced and are the only ones who know their roots with higher certainty.
    It’s why many USAians will gladly call themselves “Italian”, “Indonesian”, or “African” without ever having set a foot in that country/continent, knowing next to nothing about it, being unable to speak or even identity a language from there, nor locate it on the map.

    Factor in their education system, “winner takes all” vote counting system which leads to tribalism, and media influence, human inability to think long term, and you end up with a large swathe of people who cannot reason logically about these things.