• Baron Von J@lemmy.world
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      7 hours ago

      Ah, we’re onto the moving of the goalposts! At least we’re admitting/agreeing that the primary did, in fact, take place.

      It’s right there in the Wikipedia link:

      Senator Bernie Sanders won the highly desired primary, which bore the most delegates of the entire primary cycle by far, improving on his polling average by 3% and winning 36% of the vote and 225 delegates.[1] Former vice president Joe Biden, however, aided by among others the endorsements of Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar, also had a much stronger second-place finish than expected and took 28% of the vote and 172 delegates

      Further down in the same link

      The 415 pledged delegates to the 2020 Democratic National Convention were allocated proportionally on the basis of the results of the primary.

      And then if we go and look over here at how the delegates voted for the convention, we can see that Bernie received all those pledged delegates’ votes and a few more. Some mixture of superdelegates and delegates who were pledged to some other candidate who dropped out, but Biden picked up more of those. Now, before you treat that as an “Aha! See! They cheated Bernie!” I’ll remind you that Bernie dropped out in April and the delegates voted 4 months later in August. So even though he dropped out he still received more delegate votes than his popular vote in the primary warranted him. And you might be interested to know pretty much no candidate ever has won the general election after a contested convention, so the smart play for the general was for the I pledged and superdelegates to present a united front in support of the nominee.

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        6 hours ago

        pretty much no candidate ever has won the general election after a contested convention, so the smart play for the general was for the I pledged and superdelegates to present a united front in support of the nominee.

        and give a big “fuck you” to anyone who wanted meaningful change.

        • Baron Von J@lemmy.world
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          5 hours ago

          How would conceding the 2020 election to Trump have brought about more meaningful [progressive] change than what we had with Biden? The progressive candidates and voters need to stick with it. The Tea Party took enough of the Republican party through their primaries to turn into MAGA. We can do the same, we just have to stick with it.