• bobslaede
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    2 years ago

    I don’t see how his, very reasonable, views makes Linux itself (more?) political. What is the point of this post?

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      2 years ago

      I don’t think the title is good, but I do think it’s notable to some extent. With people having weird, shitty opinions, it’s nice to see someone who is relatively famous in the tech community for having somewhat sane opinions and being vocal about it.

      In my experience, the Linux community has got its own bunch of free speech weirdos who would reject some of these political points (especially the trans position), so I do think in that context it is kind of important.

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        2 years ago

        Otoh, his Akkoma instance should block poa.st. It is Noble of him to argue, but probably it won’t accomplish much when he takes bait.

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            2 years ago

            For someone out of the loop, what’s the deal with poa.st? I followed the link and it says its for shitposters which… doesn’t sound good… but could mean a few different things.

    • makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      The man can say what he wants and it’s nothing to do with Linux. And, his gun stance seems fair to me. I think he is an intelligent man, and I think he’s allowed to say his thoughts without some lame arse trying to tie his ideals to the OS. Move on, nothing to see here.

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        2 years ago

        This is exactly what I was thinking as well. Why is it so hard for folks to separate what someone creates from the creator? If we found out the person who created, say, the bandaid, was a militant Nazi homophobe who advocated for marriage at the age of 6, should we feel guilty every time we need to cover a cut or scrape?

        Personally, I don’t know much at all about Linus, what he prefers for breakfast, whether he wears slippers in the house or goes barefoot, and so on. He could staunchly advocate that my country do away with its present form of government and declare him dictator for life for all I care.

        I like Linux. I use Linux. It gets the job done. End of story.

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          2 years ago

          Giving a medical example for comparison is spot-on since a lot of our knowledge about human body actually comes from experiments done by nazis :)

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        2 years ago

        you do realize that linux has very political basing in it, right? do you realize that politics is a structure of governance and hence everything the authority on linux has to say will eventually, if not automatically, affect the project?

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      2 years ago

      I’ve seen people on other sites malding about how this proves linux and the GPL are communist. I suppose it’s important to know just what those people are melting down about this week.

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        @ElectronSoup @juergen @bobslaede I feel like the FOSS community has a lot of different types, but the two that stand out to me the most are the Eric Raymond right-libertarian (“I just want to say the n word without repercussions”) and the Richard Stallman vague leftist (minus the creepy shit).

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        2 years ago

        Surely that already happened in the Code of Conduct drama a few years back? Or the “Linus is rude and difficult to work with” callout even before that?

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      2 years ago

      Gloating? Complaining? I thought the FOSS community has matured past “creator’s views = views of everyone who uses their creation”, honestly. And isn’t Linus supporting the Democratic party already well known?

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      Well, there was drama here yesterday about Lemmy’s creator and maintainer being a tankie or whatever and one person trying to say “Lemmy bad” because of that.

      This post doesn’t seem to be here by coincidence.

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        This post doesn’t seem to be here by coincidence.

        As the person who posted the original post: i don’t like/trust tankies and them being tankies is one of the reason i deleted my lemmy.ml account.

        My impression is that Linus also doesn’t speak in his post about tankies, but instead i think the word “communist” is equal to some general leftist.

        But i kind of agree, that this post can be seen as “in support of tankies”. hmm.

        my impression is, furthermoore: because the more tankie politics is on lemmygrad.ml, an instance which is easily blocked, it is not that bad / could be worse. I kind of hope instances like beehaw.org have the most users someday, because they are really awesome i think

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          First, not every communist is a tankie, second, yes, Linus is not talking about being a literal communist, but about the “everyone to the left of Trump is a communist” meaning of the word.

          Third, what I was saying is that this post about the political views of the creator of a huge FOSS project is very well timed after yesterday’s discussion about Lemmy’s creator.

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          I just want lemmygrad defederated. I geniuinely thought the whole instance is satire but holy hell

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      2 years ago

      of course all topics have to do with politics, this is America