My parents (slightly too old to be boomers) heard that my nephew was diagnosed with ADHD and seem to get it - “I suppose they didn’t know about it to diagnose you with back in our day”. My dad’s blatantly undiagnosed Autistic too.
“Justice sensitivity” as a symptom of a disorder is fucking wild. Like they really said, “This person doesn’t roll over and take all the systemic abuse. We keep telling them it’s a normal amount of abuse but they don’t accept it. This is their problem.”
What disorder are you referring to? I tried to look this up, and justice sensitivity just seems to be a personality characteristic. There are also lots of websites talking about its link to ADHD and autism, but AFAIK it’s not a symptom of either.
Hm, looking it up I think you’re right.
I still think it’s kind of wild that we’ve noticed these things are linked to higher “justice sensitivity”, and as a society we still insist that those people are disordered.
Like, maybe there’s a link between having the kind of “disorder” that our hypernormative society punishes for not fitting its far too rigid systems, and being sensitive to injustice.
It’s like breaking someone’s finger and then noting that that person has high “digital sensitivity”. Like no, they have an injury, being sensitive where the injury happened is to be expected, actually.
I absolutely agree, although I wonder if it’s sorta like “hypervigilance”. Vigilance and keen observation are fantastic!
But there’s also a point where it interferes with your life because it’s freaking exhausting and you just can’t…stop…noticing…every…little…thing…
Maybe that’s what they mean, assuming in good faith they’re not being all 1984 about it…
Although it does feel like the mental health “industry” trend of pushing the onus on the individual who, may simply be reacting normally to a completely chaotic, absurd, often bleak environment.
That last part is a worthy criticism of the mental health industry and one that often gets a lot of push back unfortunately.
It results in a lot of misdiagnosed individuals and mismatched support plans that can cause more harm than good.
Yes, and if it interferes with social, work, or home life it can be more than just mentally taxing.
From the generation that made up ten derogatory terms for every race, gender, sexual preference, culture, nationality, and disability.
Ten? That’s rookie numbers
And then they get real snippy when you say “all words are made up.”
I mean it is an obnoxious thing to say lol
An obnoxious response to an obnoxious statement
Did we not learn “two wrongs don’t make a right” in kindergarten or something?
Did it ever hold true?
There are cases where it does hold. Trivially, if the wrongs are vastly out of proportion, someone is overreacting. For example, if you’re fixated on your phone, don’t look where you’re going and bump into me, that’s a mild wrong. If I respond by slapping the phone out of your hands and stomping on it, I’ve caused way more damage to you in retaliation.
But in the case at hand, I’m with you: An obnoxious statement designed to invalidate someone’s complaint countered by another obnoxious statement designed to invalidate the previous one, thus defending the original complaint, is perfectly acceptable. The point isn’t just obnoxion, but a counterargument.
And the thing it’s a response to isnt?
Both are. The first is obviously worse of course lol. Man didn’t realize this would upset so many people. Clearly the first person is worse. The response is also just kind of snarky and annoying.
The response is also just kind of snarky and annoying.
That’s the point. Pretend that my problems don’t exist? Get your bullshit thrown back at you.
As I said in another comment that’s just rolling in the mud with pigs. Hit them back with information or if you want to be petty but not the same, just make it a point to call out their ignorance.
Normally I’m all about education, but I know a lost cause when I see one. A person like that probably won’t be persuaded by information. By telling them that all words are made up, you’d be applying the snark you consider fine.
Which is the point of it. Be a jerk, get a snarky and true response.
Just call them on their shit in a real way. Why play in the mud with a pig? Point out they simply aren’t learned enough, that’s plenty lol
How is telling someone that all words are made up, not just the ones they are angry about, not calling them on their shit in a real way? In cuts straight to the point and is undeniably factual. It can turn to more conversation on the topic if it’s worth the effort. As science progresses, people make up words to explain new discoveries, so all words are made up.
Treating someone like a child that’s acting like a child is how to deal with children.
I know you know the answer to this but yall are having too much fun dogpiling as you play dumb, so go ahead and enjoy yourself 👍
What do you think that response does?
More substantive than the alternative
Without additional explanation its dumb yeah. “All words are made up, these ones were simply made up after you stopped being interested in learning about anything new in the world.”
Yet 100% true. And a cromulent response.
Agreed, one of those “technically correct but deliberately missing the point” statements. Not sure why you’re so heavily downvoted so I want to explain why I support your statement.
The original statement doesn’t suggest they fail to understand words are constructed for sharing meaning, it asserts that the statements don’t communicate anything useful because the speaker made them up.
The statement is wrong, it needs a response, but “all words are made up” is not a useful response. It’s technically correct but fails to meet the speaker halfway by understanding their position and building towards it. See also: “all lives matter.” Technically correct but not useful, and deliberately avoids trying to understand the speaker’s position.
Someone making the “made up words” argument in the first place doesn’t deserve to be met in the middle. By doing so gives them merit.
Yeah that basically sums it up. Whatever it’s all magic internet points lol
Exactly why I say this all the time now. Thank you, Archer.
Well, now I have a term for that awful sinking feeling I get in the pit of my stomach whenever I find out my friendgroups are doing things without me. That’s a start.
“We didn’t use to have mental issues back then. We had a lot of people drinking themselves to death and stuff but I fail to see any relation here.”
When you’re growing up and most of your (and your cousins’) birthday parties are keggers because it’s nice out and the adults want to party… and it was a common occurrence to wake up on the weekend to have one or more people you may or may not know passed out in the living room… and you have to clear space on the kitchen table to eat breakfast without knocking over any cans, bottles, or ashtrays.
And then you’re older and find out about the other drugs that were being abused by various adults. And eventually siblings and cousins. And you think “man I’m glad I’m not like that.”
And then you’re yet older, at the end of your rope, learning to recognize your own mental illnesses, and seeing those indicators in others.
And then you’re even older and those adults start dying in their 50s and 60s, and some of the other adults are finally being self-reflective and open about what they were dealing with internally and it’s like a game of bingo and your card keeps “winning.”
I went back to my mother
I said I’m crazy ma, help me
She said, I know how it feels son
Cause it runs in the family- The Who, The Real Me
And then you realize that the years the drugs and alcohol took off of their lives still applies to you, just in the form of chronic stress, anxiety, and depression. And, somehow, you feel some relief. You understand why they turned to substances. And so you sit through the funerals, listen to people say “it was too soon,” and say your goodbyes, knowing it won’t be long until next time. You know that one day it will be your turn. But in the meantime, there’s a hamster wheel that needs to spin because line go up. This is life. This is death. This is existence.
Tick tock.
Doesn’t matter if they’re “made up”.
The conditions that precipitated those words have always existed. The resistance to creating the terms doesn’t make the conditions not exist, it just means that the disagreeable person can justify to themselves that they don’t have to acknowledge them if they can avoid the words.
IOW, terms can help legitimize. They don’t want the conditions legitimized so they don’t have to acknowledge them.
Executive dysfunction!
Those are WoKe words!
its not just boomers
“All words are made up”
I am in this picture and I don’t like it.
i mean, technically every word is made up
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Accurate clocks were only widely available and relevant to anyone following the growth of railroads less than 200 years ago.
And YOU apparently think all humanity evolved an equal sensitivity to the passage of it, and that everyone else should be in just as much of a damn hurry as you.
Not wanting my time wasted waiting for someone who can’t be bother to think about how their lateness affects others, doesn’t mean I’m in a hurry.
Ok, doesn’t change the fact that clocks weren’t available to the layman until a couple centuries ago.
We did not evolve to be sensitive to the passage of time.
It’s a thing whether you like it or not. Your preference for punctuality is a learned behavior, not something that everyone else has.
It’s a skill which can be practiced. Making excuses to avoid doing that doesn’t help anyone.
Imagine being colorblind and someone trying to explain what purple looks like. Seeing purple is not a skill, either you have the receptors in your eyes or your don’t. The ability to sense time is similar. It is not a skill.
Damn, I used to believe that because I could do something it was possible if not easy for everybody else to do that thing. I’m ashamed to admit that I felt that way well into my thirties.
Then (way, way too late in my life) I somehow realized that not everyone was the same as I am, and I learned a little thing called empathy.
Ok, then it’s a skill that not everyone else values the same way you do. It doesn’t make you better than anyone. Frankly, it appears to stress you out, and probably lots of people around you too.
That’s funny, because every time I’ve been in a group effort at uni or the office, the late folks were the neurotypicals while those with ADHD showed up early.
Which is a polite way of saying, you’re full of shit, a fucking atrocious human being, and you statistically make less money than me who has a literal disability 👍
Edit: and of course it’s a lemm.ee fascist. Typical.
