• atrielienz@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    Two car lengths on the highway is not enough car lengths to make a meaningful difference in the event of a crash or giving you time to react to an emergency situation up ahead.

    That being said, I respect that you leave any car lengths at all and it’s probably better than nothing. Especially since other drivers see any more than that as a challenge to enter that gap. Which is dangerous as shit and they are wrong but won’t learn even after they wreck doing it.

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      26 days ago

      I think the safety guidelines are 3 seconds of reaction time which comes out to about 1 car length per 10 MPH of speed.

      But yeah, good luck with that because other drivers just see that as space they can merge.

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        26 days ago

        Sometimes all traffic is speeding along, as in 5-10mph over the speed limit, and it looks like pack racing. I keep thinking, all it takes is one distracted driver and it’s a 30 car pile up.

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          26 days ago

          Yep, exactly.

          When I notice that ahead, I always slow down a bit to put some good distance between it and myself.

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          26 days ago

          When I was a kid the recommendation was 2 seconds (‘two Mississippi’) but that was when the speed limit was 55 mph on the interstate and cars weren’t as heavy as they are now. Glad to hear they bumped it up.

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            26 days ago

            We also have much better brajes (discs and ABS) and tires (radials) now. So there’s much less stopping distance once you actually hit the brakes. But reaction times are the still the same.

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        26 days ago

        Let them merge. I’d rather give space for those who drive aggressively than be hit. It won’t really affect the time it takes to get from A to B, it reduces stress and accident probability, and I don’t lose points for some race we’re not in. I know some people get mad at passive drivers, but if I’m going around the speed limit in the right lane minding my business, why are you so mad I’m not participating in increasing insurance profits?

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          26 days ago

          If you’re in a country that typically drives on the left, and you’re driving in the far right lane on a three or more lane road, you’re still doing it wrong. That lane is for merging and exiting. The far left is for passing and the center lanes are for cruising. There might also be turn only lanes, which unless you’re turning can be safely ignored, because the only valid reason to be in a turn lane is if you’re turning.

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      This was my first thought. When I learned how to drive, the rule was one car length per 10 mph. So at highway speeds of 70, that would be 7 car lengths of space to ensure enough distance to safely stop or avoid a collision. I see approximately 0% of people following this rule nowadays, and while I try to maintain it myself, it often results in a stream of vehicles merging in front of me and messing up my distance. Fun times.

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        26 days ago

        Handy tip:

        In the USA, the lines on a highway are 10 ft long, the spaces between them are 30 ft.

        So, a line and a space are about two car lengths. It’s a handy way to judge how close you are to the car ahead. At highway speeds, you want 3-4 lines between you.

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    26 days ago

    Me: (Leaves the appropriate number of car-lengths for the present speed between me and the vehicle in front of me)

    Some jerk who should have their license revoked: [No turn signal] I merge here now!

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    26 days ago

    You need to leave at least 3 seconds of reaction time between you and the next car, 2 car lengths at that speed is too close for you to reliably react in time.

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      Also, people can’t reliably judge a “car’s length”. It’s a ridiculous measurement system, let alone travelling at 100 kmh.

      Timed gap makes so much more sense and it remains mostly consistent regardless of speed. As in, you should have 3 seconds of gap regardless of if you’re traveling 20 kmh or 100 kmh.

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        26 days ago

        Are they talking average car length, your own cars length? One of my cars is a little over twice as long as one of the others. Timed gap truly is the better rule.

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      26 days ago

      You forgot about a gamer’s reflexes. 2 car lengths at 200 km/h are fine. Give or take the condition of your brakes and tires.

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        This shit is not a game, there are no extra lives: Pad your reaction time IRL because shit happens and you can’t always anticipate it.

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          26 days ago

          Yeah you actually have to deal with repercussions in real life, and others have to deal with them too.

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        26 days ago

        Between the customers that have refused service at my old job and all the “just rolled in” videos I’ve seen I just don’t trust people’s ability to upkeep their cars. My coworker is running around on the original tires of his 2008 Saturn and doesn’t see a problem.

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    26 days ago

    I once had to be in extreme traffic during a commute behind an asshole who tapped the breaks every ten seconds or so. In retrospect, I should have changed lanes or exited and re-entered the highway. I was behind that asshole for like 45m and I was screaming with rage.

    I sold my car and gave up driving after I quit that job. Didn’t drive for 10y. Won’t ever accept a job with a commute again.

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    This is not a problem if you drive at the speed limit. Then what happens is that everyone else, who will be speeding, will continually pass you and thus create more car lengths in front of you. Unless you’re in a no passing zone on a two lane road, in which case they can follow the speed limit for once.

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      26 days ago

      The entire time you spend sitting at a light after it turns green is solely to wait for those gaps to reappear.

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      The correct stopping distance, as I was told, is “far enough back to see where their back tires touch the ground”. Pretty good rule of thumb. Gives more space for larger vehicles who may not see a jaywalker in front of them.

      Nothing to gain by being right up the ass of the car in front of you. Unless maybe you realize you’re blocking the entrance to a business/secondary street and you try to be “nice”.

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    26 days ago

    My driving instructor said leaving 4 seconds of distance was safe for highway speeds. Ok busy highways the best I can get is a few car lengths.

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    I love setting my auto cruise control and watching everyone flood in front of me to just go the same speed they were going behind me.

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    Remember the follow rule. If the vehicle in front of you is a car, stay 3 seconds behind. A tractor trailer, 4-5 seconds. An emergency vehicle, 6 seconds.

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      And if the car next to you is a tandem semi, be sure to cut them off while going downhill right before the traffic jam.

      Fucking idiot’s, all of them.

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    26 days ago

    In this same vein, I loved social distancing while standing in a line. Why do we have to cram in uncomfortably? It won’t make the line move faster.

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    26 days ago

    Half a meter is fine when I’m in need of bullying away the car blocking the fast lane on the Autobahn. Sometimes they act like they had not rear view mirrors and the road was their own.