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Jesus tapdancing christ there’s a TRIVIAL fucking solution right the fuck in front of us. Stop giving explodey shit to the people committing genocide, and also stop giving them any diplomatic cover whatsoever.
Someone tell Biden there is actually a really easy solution.
Stop arms exports to israel.
He’s in a lose/lose situation now.
He can keep supporting Israel and lose the support of the younger voters he so desperately needs.
OR:
He can reverse course, let Bibi twist in the wind, causing him to lose all support from the pro-Israel lobby, and be met with “yeah, but you didn’t do it soon enough” from the younger voters.
Third option is: you’re misusing our armaments, and we won’t give you more.
That would run him afoul of the pro-Israel lobby and nobody can afford to do that.
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/background?cycle=2024&ind=Q05
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S
There’s a big difference between fully sanctioning israel or providing any form of pushback
I’m pretty sure the youth is more receptive to not funding genocide with tax dollars than you make it out to seem
They aren’t though. See the complaints about the economy. The youth vote is very vocal, but they don’t have the money to make up for lost donations from the Pro-Israel PAC.
They aren’t though. See the complaints about the economy.
We should keep supporting genocide because gaslighting the poor hasn’t worked?
Supporting Biden isn’t supporting genocide, that’s a false argument.
Biden is supporting Israel because that’s where the PAC money is and poor college students can’t make up that difference.
Man, the absolutist crowd is out in force today.
- I don’t “support” Biden, but there is a 100% chance I will be voting for him in November, simply due to the vagaries of the American electoral system.
- not voting for Biden is leaning in to the electoral system being intentionally skewed to the right through various sketchy tactics
- not combating that rightward skew will likely lead to Trump winning the election
- trump winning the election will likely lead to Trump doing something absolutely heinous in naked support of Israel’s genocidal actions, like carpet bombing parts of Gaza with a few squadrons of B-52s like it was the Vietnam War (amongst a shitload of other terrible things both related to Israel and not)
As always, context kinda fucking matters a lot.
Edit: all that said: I’m pretty sure the downvotes are due to how dismissive you are being of “poor college students”
Let me ask you a hypothetical, given the choice between continuing to ship weapons to Israel or Biden winning the 2024 election which would you choose?
I’m sorry, no, that’s an absolutely idiotically framed question, to the extent that I’m quite confident you’re just trying to push agitprop.
To be clear:
- Biden winning might eventually decrease or cut off weapon shipments to Israel, because though it’s often glacial, Biden DOES sometimes react to public sentiment (though often it’s politically delayed/timed, which is infuriating for people waiting for The Appointed Time where the announcement of some policy will have the greatest political impact)
- Trump winning will likely mean that the USAF may be ordered to just help Israel carpet bomb Gaza into dust with a few squadrons of B-52s.
You’re presenting a dichotomy where there is none.
Edit:
Ok, let’s try this another way: which of the two presidential candidates that are advancing to the general election do you believe will actually stop shipping weapons to Israel, or at least has the possibility of being convinced of stopping the shipments?
I’ll give you a hint: it’s not Trump.
