As a second generation Latino I believe it has to do with assimilation. Most of my family works in construction in some way (including myself) and they’re usually uneducated and easily manipulated. It’s no surprise the right targets blue collar workers and bombards them with anti-social program rhetoric about “your tax dollars being used to fund the lazy” bullshit. Also, and I hate to say this, blacks and Latinos didn’t mix historically. The BLM stuff moved a lot of minorities (Asians and others) away from the left and I’m still embarrassed by it - another example being that Latinos and whites get along in California jails and don’t associate with blacks. Shits fucking retarded.
I can apply one of my favorite quotes to this situation: “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” - LBJ… but instead use brown instead of white 🤣
The BLM stuff moved a lot of minorities (Asians and others) away from the left
Can you expand on this? I haven’t stumbled upon this before
I’ll leave a few examples of what I mean but growing up in the 90’s, it was cool to be racist against blacks. My family was no exception and it was expected of us to not get along. This wasn’t an isolated incident as the whole world of “pick-me-minorites” (including other black people) was growing. The system made us enemies and with it came a culture of acceptable racism. So it’s no surprise that these older generations still harbored some misguided hatred when the BLM protests/riots happened. My family, as much as I love them, are completely stupid and immature when it comes to racial issues. My own sweet mother is afraid of black people and is oftentimes on the giving end of some wild racist quotes. But her uncle was killed by a black man over a pair of shoes so I guess it’s “justified?” Obviously not.
So it could be a case of underlying racism that pushed them over the edge. The BLM movement was viewed negatively and as “typical behavior and patterns of violence of their kind” even though the overwhelming majority was peaceful. So it pushed the center to the right the right even further.
Anyways, here’s some links to the turmoil - not necessarily a direct link to my original claim but I guess you have to make the connection. The left media won’t (I sound so far-right right now 🤣)
https://www.vox.com/22321234/black-asian-american-tensions-solidarity-history
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooftop_Koreans
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1992/10/blacks-vs-browns/306655/
I grew up in Southern California, in the 90’s during peak gang culture. It wasn’t about being “cool,” it was literally about two entirely different types of cultures that hated each other. My Mexican family blamed a lot of crime and issues in their neighborhoods on blacks, and vice versa. I went to a school that had gang fights every day, blacks hated Mexicans and Mexicans hated blacks. That’s why they even go their separate ways in prison. It wasn’t about being cool, it was about survival. And that mentality is generational. My uncles fought with blacks on the streets of Southern California, and now, my cousins are doing the same. I also don’t think it’s the “system.” It was literally stupid territory differences. It had nothing to with any kind of system, it was more about you stay where you’re at and take care of your people, and we’ll do the same…
Basically, BLM had the attitude of “if you’re not with us, you’re a racist.” And that was just way too extreme. Many people, including Latinos, just didn’t care, or didn’t want to get involved. When BLM started looting and burning down things in their neighborhoods, they became more angry and didn’t care even more. However, they were lumped together with everyone else as “racists” or “bigots” if they didn’t want to march hand in hand with blacks.
I’m 2nd generation and I disagree. My family tends to vote Republican because of their strong Catholic beliefs. My grandparents are good people, they’ve lived here for almost their entire lives (came from Mexico when they were young) and have always voted Republican because they believe the Republicans do more to protect religion. They’re not “uneducated” or “easily manipulated.” They simply think that the Left wants to take away things they have always felt very strong about, which is family and religion.
If they think religion needs protection, they are easily manipulated.
Democrats are no better. I mean, I grew up being told I’m deprived because I’m a minority, and that I should vote Democrat because of this reason. I remember literally being told by a teacher in 5th grade that I HAVE to vote Democrat because I’m Mexican. Democrats have done an excellent job manipulating minorities into thinking that they can only vote one way…
There are stupid people of every size shape, color, gender, and ethnicity.
“If you don’t have liberal views and vote Democrat, you’re stupid!” Sincerely, Liberals and Democrats.
I mean, you’re not wrong.
And now you know why Trump won in 2016… because 60 million people were told they were stupid…
Well 60 million ARE stupid to have voted for trump. And you’re one of them lol. Trump won because of the electoral college.
Spoken like a true Democrat: “You’re stupid, because you’re not like me!”
No, that’s not why you’re stupid, being “not like me” can be a good trait. Voting for trump is what makes you stupid. Also I’m not a Democrat :D
That’s cool, cause I’m not a Republican…and I didn’t once say I was voting for Trump…but keep assuming and generalizing, that’s what the Left does best!
Because no one likes to assume the the color of their skin or the language they speak means more than what they believe. Democrats are arrogant.
On the other hand, Republicans might actually put people against a wall for the color of their skin or the language they speak. But no one likes being taken for granted.
Edit: or to put it more bluntly, “promises made, promises… still being made! Shut up if you don’t vote for us what are your options???”
Well. Our options are the other option. Not ideal, but at least they’re really excited to see brown and black people give cover to white supremacy. Democrats aren’t excited about brown and black support–they assume they deserve it.
I’m sure that hurts the feelings of the NPR-class of Democrats, but the numbers don’t lie. Even Colin Jost makes the joke at the correspondents’ dinner.
It’s like when leftists get pissy the the working class keep voting against their interests but don’t do anything to appeal to the working class.
The right intentionally tries to say Democrats are socialist, exactly like the socialists that you fled from in Cuba, etc. It’s amazing that it works, but it does.
Kind of like how the Left intentionally tries to say Republicans are fascists? Also, the Right doesn’t have to say anything to convince Latinos that the Democrat Party isn’t the party for them…you’re assuming minorities and immigrants can’t think for themselves…
I love it how motherjones insinuates the dreaded right wing is an evil cult.
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Latino is not a race. They are Spanish speakers, foremost.
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The author of the article presumably thinks that Latinos should want open borders, because they are the same race, or something of that nature.
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The author assumes that American Latinos should be proud of a country they were not born in, don’t live in, and perhaps no family in.
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Latinos, Hispanics, Latinx, whatever liberals decide to call them, are not necessarily foreign to the soil of the US. Latinos been in the US since before the US expansion toward the West. They existed inside Texas when it was a republic. The Hispanos, that is what they call themselves of the American Southwest, are not Mexican, they have been around during the days of Spaniards. Do you really expect them to identify with a country for which they have no ancestral ties to? Furthermore, Mexican isn’t a race. Mexico is a country where you have Mexican Jews, Mexican sub-Saharan Africans, Asian-Mexicans., and Amerindians.
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Some points the author gets mostly right: Yes, an invisible caste system does exist in a lot of Latin America, but not ALL of Latin America. Cubans and Dominicans are racially integrated while at the same time Dominicans are nationalist, and even pan-latin. You can’t blame the continued existence of a caste system on white folks. You can’t blame racial-ethnic tensions in South America between the Amerindians and mestizos on white folks, either. There are no white folks teaching Bolivians to be prejudice against each other.
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Hispanics may not like a country like Mexico, not because they’re racist; they genuinely think the country sucks. That is rational. There is good nationalism and there is bad nationalism. Good nationalism seeks to improve the quality of the nation in economic well-being, or happiness, and security, through achievement. Bad nationalism is tribalism, and you will find a lot of that in Latin America as well. That is irrational because you imagine some special quality of being a national, but you can’t quite figure out what. It is an issue of substance.
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What about the politics of Latinos? They do they like the US because it is a country of laws, or do you expect them to look onto a lawless country more favorably? Migrants vote with their feet.
What motherjones wants is to imagine is ourselves as communist, where we ignore our differences and assume we are all equal or the same. Motherjones wants you to think simply of right wing latinos as being influenced by the Ku Klux Klan. They miss the mark so often, I don’t read them. Of course, it is about race, that is what motherjones is about.
Latino doesn’t mean Spanish speaking. That’s Hispanic.
While Spanish is the largest language. It’s not the only language.
French and Portuguese, don’t consider themselves Latino. You are wrong because you don’t read the dictionary. I actually read.
Adjective: Hispanic, relating to Spain or to Spanish-speaking countries, especially those of Latin America. Relating to Spanish-speaking people or their culture, especially in the US. “The New York Hispanic community” noun: Hispanic; plural noun: Hispanics a Spanish-speaking person living in the US, especially one of Latin American descent.
Someone never learned the difference between equity and equality.
Do better you narrow perspective twit.
So what do you see that is equity and not equality? Affirmative action? Transgenders playing women’s sports?
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I’m half Mexican. Our whole lives, we’re told we MUST vote Democrat because we’re “minorities.” Growing up in Southern California, I remember, literally, being taught that we were NOT good enough to be Republicans. “Democrats are the poor people, Republicans are the rich people…” I remember my 6th grade teacher telling me this. As I got older and started thinking for myself, I realized that I can vote any way I want. It’s the Democrats that told me I couldn’t. I think more and more Latinos are starting to realize that they CAN vote Republican, and that they ARE good enough…many Latinos have very conservative views (due to Catholicism) yet, they were told they can’t vote Republican…
You make it sound like if people told Latinos they can’t vote for Democrats then they wouldn’t want to vote Republican anymore. But we all know that ain’t true. Grievances only go direction way in the USA, from the right.
The GOP is the party for people in a bubble that want to feign victimhood while oppressing working people who are actually the oppressed.
There’s a conservative Latino in my family who married a white karen, he’s always bashing other Latinos. It doesn’t matter what color their skin is, rightwing Republicans act the same in my experience.
I’m half Mexican half white… growing up, the only racism I ever experienced was by other Mexicans at my schools because they were farm workers, poor, and saw me as a “half breed” wannabe. My parents didn’t work in the fields, and we lived in a nice side of town (this was when California was bussing in kids from other areas into poorer areas…). My dad busted his ass, went to trade school and got a good job when we were kids, same with my mother. However, I was picked on for looking white and having a white mother. At my schools, all our teachers would talk about how wonderful Democrats were, while constantly bashing Republican leaders. My experience is much more different than what the democrats would have you believe.
Looking at everything you post, you’re clearly a right wing troll. Go shill elsewhere
There is nowhere else. Every single site is 99% Left/Democrat…that doesn’t mean I don’t get to express my opinions like the rest of you clones.
