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    Do you have to get permission from the government to exercise free speech outside your home? Can you be denied your right to remain silent based on what state you live in? What other right can simply be denied to adults?

    Treating the 2nd Amendment like a first-class right is hardly ‘expanding’ it.

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      “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

      I am just courious. What does that whole statement mean to you?

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        That was decided by a different SCotUS before I was born. Quite literally doesn’t matter what it mean to us.

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      What other right can simply be denied to adults?

      The right to life and liberty, by any gun owner, at any moment, for any reason.

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        What the hell are you talking about? Murder is illegal. What world do you live in where that isn’t the case?

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          Murder is illegal, but the supreme court has said that it’s okay to sell murder weapons to people who are obviously going to commit murder.

          Because the right-wing nutjobs hate background checks, and red flag laws and anything else that slows down the constant murder.

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            Don’t waste your time with GOP/Nazi members. They are a death cult. Killing others is what they love more than anything in this world.

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              You’re in for a rude awakening if you believe that only GOP and Nazis own guns. There’s a reason Reddit has a liberal gun owners sub. Lefties just tend to be less vocal about it.

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            it’s okay to sell murder weapons to people who are obviously going to commit murder

            Planning to murder someone is not only illegal but also a felony, which bars gun ownership. If we have evidence someone is going to commit murder, arrest, charge, and convict them.

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                  Should we allow overweight, insecure men with a long history of red flags to buy hand grenades, land mines and machine guns?

                  Some people with NRA induced brain damage will of course say yes but the reality is that we’ve already decided that there are weapon that are too dangerous to indiscriminately hand out.

                  And what do you know? We’re able to keep them out of the hands of domestic terrorists just fine.

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        And what kind of speech you can say. For example, hate speech, incitements to violence, and of course yelling “fire” in a crowded theater.

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          Hate speech is legal and incitement to violence has to be imminently dangerous. AFAIK all limitations of speech have to do with immediate public safety

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          yelling “fire” in a crowded theater

          Is part of an overturned court case. And even before it was overturned, the limit wasn’t that you couldn’t yell ‘fire’, the limit was you couldn’t create harm via your actions. (Ex, if there was a fire, you did nothing illegal by saving others).

          To circle this back to the 2nd Amendment. One can own and carry a gun, one can even save others with their firearm, one cannot murder people.