Yeah it’s a weird fucking ritual isn’t it? It made a couple of my teachers mad in highschool that I refused to stand and pledge. It sounds edgy, but it’s such a weird brainwashy thing to do that
Looking back, it is really weird. Do they still do “one nation, under god?” As someone who is no longer religious at all, I find this weird, too.
It wasn’t always like that, either. The “under god” part was added by Eisenhower in the 50s during the red scare. He added the “In God We Trust” thing to the money around the same time.
Shouldn’t this upset Christians, then? To use the Lord’s name in vain against communism?
When it involves money, Christians are pretty hypocrite
I just lied and said I was Jehovah’s Witnesses so I could sit out in the hall with the others. That was socially acceptable.
“Sit out int the hall with the others”… eh, who are the others that gets sent to the hallway during the pledge? The pledge is fucked up in it self, so are some people sent to the hallway like “well, if you want to be a traitor you have to leave”?
The other JWs. Or anyone with a religious exemption. I’m surprised they allowed it in such a rural religious school. Probably just because some of those other kids were well off for the area.
I did the same thing except I wasn’t lying. Ironically that cult is even nuttier than the cult of the flag. It was like I dodged a bullet by getting blown apart by artillery before it could hit me.
As a teacher, this is our daily ritual. They think we indoctrinate students, but by law we have to say this every morning. If students want to abstain, they just sit quietly. When asked if I can demonstrate that as a teacher, the school lawyers said I have that right, but they can’t defend me if a parent complains…
I love to remind people it was invented by a flag salesman to sell more flags. Are you allowed to mention that?
Holy shit, is that true? (Source?)
Did a double take when it said Iowa didn’t require it. I missed that it was written in 2015.
As a student, I was called to the principal’s office for remaining seated. I was strongly told I should stand and didn’t care that the other students were throwing garbage at me. They wonder why I tried getting my diploma voided.
Wait. Is this (still) a real thing?
"I pledge allegiance
To the flag
Of the United States of America…"
Yeah, kids still do this in schools across the US.
My wife is an elementary school teacher and she lets her students choose whether they want to participate or not each day.
Most kids do it because they are following along with the rest, but some do actually sit out during the pledge
I’ve seen videos of kids just quietly sitting out the pledge and getting shoved out of their chair by other kids for it and the teacher just watches, can’t say I blame anyone for just going along with it.
WTF
Okay but why the Flag? Wouldn’t be the Constitution better? (I’m from Europe and actual curios because I thought that was more a stereotype than something people really do)
Apparently, it’s because nobody buys constitutions. But you can sell them flags.
That would make much more sense, allegiance to a flag is very silly. I’ve heard many reasons for why that started and all of them are very dumb.
No no no it’s like this: "I pledge al-leg-iance to the flag
Of theuni-ted States Ofamerica"
I was diagnosed with Asperger’s when I was younger but I don’t show any signs now, but I would refuse to pledge and I especially never liked the “one nation under god” part from a rather young age. I moved around a lot as a kid and sometimes Teachers understood and were kind but other times they were the most hissy belligerent people about it and turn it into a whole ordeal.
I’m extremely happy that society is slowly progressing past that cringe as a whole.
HAHA. I did the same thing in Canada with the national anthem for the same reason. Refused to stand for it or sing it. Some teachers would lose their SHIT. Like… grow up. I don’t want to sing the theme song, why care?
I pledge allegiance to the trans pride flag
Has the council decided on a proper formal pledge yet?
Canadian here. I still sing my national anthem and I do pledge allegiance. I see my country men and women as brothers and sisters in this freezing hellscape of a country. I need to. They Jumpstart my truck for me when is -40c
We have a pledge of Allegiance?
I hope we can evolve past borders and see all humans as brothers. I think it’s more likely to be a goal domination or catastrophe that could actually bring that around though.
I stand on guard for thee.
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4th grade was when I was taught about separation of church and state, and used the “no false idols” commandment from Christianity to get out of doing the pledge of allegiance every morning. Put in that way, no one ever gave me shit for not participating.
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Oh please, Dear? For your information The Bellamy Salute preceeded Nazism by at least thirty years and definitely wasn’t the creepiest motherfucking shit you ever saw.
Also, on a personal level, we’re just enormous fans of this country. The Declaration of Independence, The United States Constitution, especially the more appropriate amendments are an enormous source of inspiration. I say the pledge with no problems (well, tbh I’m not a fan of the under God part but until Congress does something we’re stuck either listening to everyone else do it while we skip it or just doing it for shits 'n giggles), and I hold my hand over my heart. I love the flag. And I’ll burn that motherfucker in protest if I want to, okay? America is an ideal and we’ll never reach it but we have to keep on moving forward to make it the best it can be. Whenever the pledge fades away I won’t miss it, but it’s a time-and-place thing that’s fine by me.
Nationalism and borders are dumb tho
They are
Also, on a personal level, we’re just enormous fans of this country.
fans
of a country
Cringe
it’s a Lebowski quote
