Some instances know their embrace, extend, extinguish history and some don’t.
The important part, from @kev@fostodon.org:
This conversation will be off the record.
Ahaha, fuck no. If someone did go, please spill that tea.
The color codes and symbols aren’t at all propagandist.
I mean technically, but it’s not like it’s trying to be subtle about it. From the page:
I believe that Facebook represents one of the gravest threats to democracies around the world […]
The point is to discourage instances from federating with threads.
Lol what democracy
It’s not over yet, friend. There are still things worth fighting for, and still so, so much more we could lose. Don’t give up hope.
What
A flawed democracy is still better than no democracy
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I thought the same, then I saw the quote at the top of the page and realized it wasn’t strictly for information tracking
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Huzzah for data visualization. This effect is happening all around you, in all sorts of content.
Nice, props to whoever made that site.
https://veganism.social/@nm should have added in the desc.
Huh. You’d think more instances were blocking, given the amount of buzz.
Being generallky in favor of letting individual users make this call that’s… mildly encouraging. Of course I happen to be in an instance that is blocking, so…
It’s worth noting that this still splits Mastodon pretty much in half. That’s arguably a bigger concern than anything else Meta may be doing. They may not even have to actually federate to break Mastodon, which is a very interesting dynamic.
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Oh, hard disagree on the last part, at least.
As always in left-leaning spaces, the best way to disarm any threat of reform is to wait for whatever purity test over a random issue to trigger a schism, sit back and watch. It’s not even the first time it happens to Mastodon specifically.
In this case, a potential competitor that already has a reputation for being overcomplicated and having bad UX now needs an extra FAQ item called “can I interact with Threads from Mastodon?” and the answer is “it depends”.
It’s terrible, self-destructive and worse than either a yes or no call. Zuck boned Masto by federating a handful of employee accounts only AND he’s still going to get the plausible deniability in front of regulators from federating with whatever’s left. I’d be impressed if I thought Meta did it on purpose instead of it being entirely self-inflicted.
Thanks for putting this in words, I had been struggling thinking about what was bothering me about this.
Hey can you help me reword the commenter above you about what they meant? I had a hard time fully understanding it, maybe I’m not updated enough about Meta to understand what exactly Zuck wants to have plausible-deniability about?
I can only tell you what I read it as: it’s about the current increase in regulations from the EU, this can be specifically read as a way to avoid getting regulated by DMA which aims to make any massively popular services have to have crossplay or compatibility methods that any other competitor can use.
It’s basically asking any service to have a standard way of interoperability with everyone else, which ActivityPub can be considered for social media, and Meta is using federating with ActivityPub based services while getting blocked by them as a plausibly deniable way of interoperability without actually having to do that because they’re blocked by most of the other services and they can surely find ways to block other popular servers by claiming that those servers are not doing as good of a job at moderating, allowing Meta to have their cake and eat it too basically.
I hope this helps, I tried to cover every possible way to explain it that I could think of. I tried to see if ChatGPT can help but I felt it was lacking.
It’s not just ideological. Many people and instances on the fediverse have minorities using them. These minorities rely on it to share and discuss in safe spaces. The federation of threads is a threat to these safe space.
There seems to a mistake saying that Threads is not blocked by lemmy.zip, when we defederated them months ago.
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Thanks for the understanding and help 😊
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This is not an exhaustive list. For example, Instagram Threads profiles are available from kbin.social, which is not listed here, though.
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On kbin/mbin you can look at https:///federation it has a list of known instances and right at the end is the list of defederated ones.
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Thanks for this
It’s somehow fun to see instance rules adding a clause about We do not federate with organization involved in Genocides
And a pitty that Meta is that Bad !
Is Lemmy.world not going to defederate from Threads? Did I miss something?
Thanks so much for the link!
Time to migrate my account then ¯_(ツ)_/¯
That’s Mastodon.world or is that the same as lemmy.world?
Same admin.
I was right to avoid making my account there then lol
though ig you can just migrate accounts now with 0.19
Instead you went with the tankies and think that’s somehow better? lol
Much better. It’s modded directly by Lemmy devs and they don’t defederate well-modded instances.
Btw, “tankie” isn’t much of an insult if you meant it like that, the same way “woke” isn’t much of one to the people conservatives use it against. Fighting against economic inequality and discrimination are good things.
The Lemmy devs, who are also tankies, yeah.
Tankie is as much of an “insult” as Nazi is. Spreading disinformation & insults and glorifying Stalin and Mao while defending modern ruscism is just as vile and should be cancelled just the same. And it’s funny you say well-“modded” instances. I assume you mean moderated, which isn’t even done properly on Lemmy.ml itself, as they completely ignore reports of insults & disinformation from tankies.
Whatever. Thanks for showing your true colors. At least I can tag you appropriately now.
I’ve asked the exact same question.
Am I the one who finds X federated in the status of this website as that instance is not federated ?
It also confuses me that it says like that instance is federated.
Yes. I get the idea, because federating with them is the “negative” option, but honestly it’s just confusing and overly opinionated for an infographic.
X = Federated = Bad
It’s not rocket science.Yeah X is the other hellsite.
We gotta pump these numbers up
What is fedipact?
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This makes it just confusing? The pink heart = good, but the red cross = good too? But again the red cross seems bad as green = blocked.
Sorry I don’t get it.
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Thank, I’m probably an idiot :-)
Edit: I’ll get to it (my instance is small, I’m not very knowledgeable about the nitty gritty stuff, can I do it from Jerboa for example, or is it in some config file? I remember putting someone on the whitelist and thus blocking the whole fediverse…)
It’s a silly hashtag för instances that are in a “pact” to block Threads
why is silly
Because the people signed the pact did it long time ago, before any details about Threads federation was known. It was a typical fedi kneejerk reaction.
You’d have to be a dumbass to federate with these megacorps lol. We’re here precisely because of the decisions of one such company.
I guess majority on fedi are dumbasses in that case ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mastodon is pretty fucked up anyway because everyone is on mastodon.social.
The key detail about Threads is that it’s owned by Meta. That’s the reason to block Threads. It was known back then, so there’s nothing silly about it.
is facebook
Not nearly enough.
This is why I love DBZER0
I hope LW limits federation
Have the admins said anything? Why are we federated with them?
Yep. They don’t care and they’re going to keep federation with Facebook so “users have the choice to opt out”
Mastodon’s largest instance is letting them in too
The new Lemmy 19 allows users to block instances so that’s not unreasonable for the largest instances. Gotta show new users that users have control.
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Lol lemmy world admins are all chuds
Good. On one hand it’s good to see fediverse stuff coming mainstream, on the other hand the last thing we want is a load of celebrities and brands trying to cannibalise said fediverse as an opportunity to corner the market instead of genuinely useful resources for communication
