#Fedipact - The instances blocking Zuckerberg's Threads.net
fedipact.veganism.social
An interactive list to see which ActivityPub (Matodon, Lemmy, FireFish, etc) instances are federating with Threads.net
  • MudMan@kbin.social
    464·
    9 months ago

    Huh. You’d think more instances were blocking, given the amount of buzz.

    Being generallky in favor of letting individual users make this call that’s… mildly encouraging. Of course I happen to be in an instance that is blocking, so…

    It’s worth noting that this still splits Mastodon pretty much in half. That’s arguably a bigger concern than anything else Meta may be doing. They may not even have to actually federate to break Mastodon, which is a very interesting dynamic.

      • MudMan@kbin.social
        192·
        9 months ago

        Oh, hard disagree on the last part, at least.

        As always in left-leaning spaces, the best way to disarm any threat of reform is to wait for whatever purity test over a random issue to trigger a schism, sit back and watch. It’s not even the first time it happens to Mastodon specifically.

        In this case, a potential competitor that already has a reputation for being overcomplicated and having bad UX now needs an extra FAQ item called “can I interact with Threads from Mastodon?” and the answer is “it depends”.

        It’s terrible, self-destructive and worse than either a yes or no call. Zuck boned Masto by federating a handful of employee accounts only AND he’s still going to get the plausible deniability in front of regulators from federating with whatever’s left. I’d be impressed if I thought Meta did it on purpose instead of it being entirely self-inflicted.

        • SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net
          1·
          9 months ago

          Thanks for putting this in words, I had been struggling thinking about what was bothering me about this.

          • u_u@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            1·
            9 months ago

            Hey can you help me reword the commenter above you about what they meant? I had a hard time fully understanding it, maybe I’m not updated enough about Meta to understand what exactly Zuck wants to have plausible-deniability about?

            • SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net
              1·
              9 months ago

              I can only tell you what I read it as: it’s about the current increase in regulations from the EU, this can be specifically read as a way to avoid getting regulated by DMA which aims to make any massively popular services have to have crossplay or compatibility methods that any other competitor can use.

              It’s basically asking any service to have a standard way of interoperability with everyone else, which ActivityPub can be considered for social media, and Meta is using federating with ActivityPub based services while getting blocked by them as a plausibly deniable way of interoperability without actually having to do that because they’re blocked by most of the other services and they can surely find ways to block other popular servers by claiming that those servers are not doing as good of a job at moderating, allowing Meta to have their cake and eat it too basically.

              I hope this helps, I tried to cover every possible way to explain it that I could think of. I tried to see if ChatGPT can help but I felt it was lacking.

      • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        71·
        9 months ago

        It’s not just ideological. Many people and instances on the fediverse have minorities using them. These minorities rely on it to share and discuss in safe spaces. The federation of threads is a threat to these safe space.

  • Levsgetso@lemmy.zipEnglish
    22·
    9 months ago

    There seems to a mistake saying that Threads is not blocked by lemmy.zip, when we defederated them months ago.

  • Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works
    211·
    9 months ago

    It’s somehow fun to see instance rules adding a clause about We do not federate with organization involved in Genocides

    And a pitty that Meta is that Bad !

      • Alsephina@lemmy.ml
        82·
        9 months ago

        I was right to avoid making my account there then lol

        though ig you can just migrate accounts now with 0.19

          • Alsephina@lemmy.ml
            64·
            9 months ago

            Much better. It’s modded directly by Lemmy devs and they don’t defederate well-modded instances.

            Btw, “tankie” isn’t much of an insult if you meant it like that, the same way “woke” isn’t much of one to the people conservatives use it against. Fighting against economic inequality and discrimination are good things.

            • DarkThoughts@kbin.social
              33·
              9 months ago

              The Lemmy devs, who are also tankies, yeah.
              Tankie is as much of an “insult” as Nazi is. Spreading disinformation & insults and glorifying Stalin and Mao while defending modern ruscism is just as vile and should be cancelled just the same. And it’s funny you say well-“modded” instances. I assume you mean moderated, which isn’t even done properly on Lemmy.ml itself, as they completely ignore reports of insults & disinformation from tankies.
              Whatever. Thanks for showing your true colors. At least I can tag you appropriately now.

              • Alsephina@lemmy.ml
                1·
                9 months ago

                “Anything that challenges my worldview is disinformation” lmao

                Lemmy.ml does a great job keeping homophobes and nazis out, better than .world at least.

                • DarkThoughts@kbin.social
                  11·
                  9 months ago

                  Lemmy.ml user using a hexbear hosted picture in a classic self-own. 🤡
                  If you’re such a fan of starvation then please, do us all the favor.

  • notsharp@lemmy.world
    211·
    9 months ago

    Am I the one who finds X federated in the status of this website as that instance is not federated ?

    It also confuses me that it says like that instance is federated.

      • Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com
        81·
        9 months ago

        This makes it just confusing? The pink heart = good, but the red cross = good too? But again the red cross seems bad as green = blocked.

        Sorry I don’t get it.

          • Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com
            71·
            9 months ago

            Thank, I’m probably an idiot :-)

            Edit: I’ll get to it (my instance is small, I’m not very knowledgeable about the nitty gritty stuff, can I do it from Jerboa for example, or is it in some config file? I remember putting someone on the whitelist and thus blocking the whole fediverse…)

    • 0xtero@kbin.social
      119·
      9 months ago

      It’s a silly hashtag för instances that are in a “pact” to block Threads

        • 0xtero@kbin.social
          35·
          9 months ago

          Because the people signed the pact did it long time ago, before any details about Threads federation was known. It was a typical fedi kneejerk reaction.

          • Alsephina@lemmy.ml
            52·
            9 months ago

            You’d have to be a dumbass to federate with these megacorps lol. We’re here precisely because of the decisions of one such company.

            • 0xtero@kbin.social
              33·
              9 months ago

              I guess majority on fedi are dumbasses in that case ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
              Mastodon is pretty fucked up anyway because everyone is on mastodon.social.

          • java@beehaw.org
            2·
            9 months ago

            The key detail about Threads is that it’s owned by Meta. That’s the reason to block Threads. It was known back then, so there’s nothing silly about it.

  • merthyr1831@lemmy.world
    152·
    9 months ago

    Good. On one hand it’s good to see fediverse stuff coming mainstream, on the other hand the last thing we want is a load of celebrities and brands trying to cannibalise said fediverse as an opportunity to corner the market instead of genuinely useful resources for communication