• soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz
    65·
    11 months ago

    I always ask why they are hiring. It’s important to know if you’re a replacement or part of an expansion project.

    If it’s the latter I ask them how many they are hiring and what the long term goal is.

    Standard interview practice

  • dgbbad@lemmy.zipEnglish
    53·
    11 months ago

    Okay, I stole this a while back, but I feel it’s needed here. It’s my new favorite meme format.

  • Norgur@kbin.social
    5010·
    11 months ago

    “you know that this job is for a brand new office we’re opening, right? Have you, like, read the job description?”

    You dun goofed

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
      316·
      11 months ago

      Yeah, it’s the rule that’s wrong because a rare exception exists. A rare exception that assumes something not mentioned, even 🙄

      • SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zipEnglish
        11·
        11 months ago

        This is anecdotal, but in my last 4 jobs the role was newly created (three of them were for a newly formed team).

      • Norgur@kbin.social
        411·
        11 months ago

        There is always this one person who tries to find an expression of opinion in everything that’s said (with a good helping of interpretation of course since there was no expression of opinion to begin with), then attacks that made up opinion in a snarky, moral high ground sort of way… Not everything people say is meant to start a serious discussion, folks!

            • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
              82·
              11 months ago

              You would have preferred that I pointed out your rank hypocrisy in a less creative way that’s no amount of fun for anyone to read?

              I thought being no fun was the halfway legitimate half of your complaint but I guess you’re a hypocrite about the whole thing 🤷

              • Norgur@kbin.social
                49·
                11 months ago

                Okay, so either I’ve done something that I have reprimanded you for and thus am a hypocrite, or you are starting to do the old “moral high ground” chain of escalation that usually ends with someone mindlessly crying hypocrite just to win a super useless internet argument.

                Let’s summarize: I made a mediocre throw away joke by making up a conversation to a meme that’d lead to a “makes you chuckle a little” punchline. I deliberately used comedic, very casual language.

                You replied with a comment that started with sarcasm and suggested I wanted to invalidate the OP meme because of a made up situation.

                I then remarked that you interpreted a statement that was not made into my words, claimed moral high ground and.went about it in a snarky way (sarcasm and all).

                So, either you are trying to tell me that your reply to me was a joke as well, which would have the potential to make me a hypocrite, yet I’d like to add that there was neither a punchline not anything else that would qualify your statement as a joke, so how was this “joke” of your’s meant to play out?

                Or you did exactly what I said, continued to freely interpret stuff that wasn’t said into my replies and then attacked those.

                This “discussion” is completely irrelevant of course since again, I did not say anything that was grounds for discussion at all and didn’t intend to in an way shape or form, so I think this response should suffice to end it. You might want to ask yourself which of the possibilities described fits. You need not respond or anything, I’m not petty enough to need a win here or anything, but perhaps you can learn something about the way you communicate.

                I wish you a pleasant day.

  • MrVilliam@lemmy.worldEnglish
    292·
    11 months ago

    I did this at the interview for the power plant I’ve been working at for the past 2.5 years. There was a 3 person panel interviewing me and I think they were impressed that I not only asked this but kept asking it through vague bullshit answers. They initially just said “the previous guy left.” And I just sat there for about 10 seconds, waiting for more info than that. Then I said “okay, did he quit, get fired, put in his notice, retire, get demoted, get promoted, become disabled, die off site, die while here…?” He had gone to a different company, but I was uneasy from their hesitance to be forthcoming, so I dug into questions about the culture there, work/life balance, advancement opportunities, safety record, management style, and (maybe my favorite) “what does success in this role look like and how are your feedback and expectations of that communicated to employees?”

    They seemed uncomfortable and impatient, but because I already had a decent job at the time I had nothing to lose by swinging my dick around and cutting the bullshit. I highly recommend applying and interviewing for jobs while you’re already reasonably well-employed. It’s great practice, it keeps your resume up to date, you learn real negotiation tactics, and you get to decline offers that aren’t a substantial step up. About a year and a half ago, I did a video interview in my underwear where the manager and supervisor running the interview couldn’t hear me so I was live troubleshooting and resolved their issue. I got an offer, rejected it by telling HR to come back with a higher offer, got the same offer a week later, asked the HR lady why she wasn’t capable of listening to my instructions and was wasting my time with greedy negotiation tactics (which really annoyed her), asked for her name and the name of her supervisor while wholeheartedly rejecting any offer that would come from her, reported the experience to her supervisor, got a call back from the HR lady full of apologies (which I didn’t forgive but thanked her for), and emailed the supervisor I had interviewed with to thank him and let him know that everything sounded great but I couldn’t work for a company whose HR department was that shitty to me before I even verbally accepted an offer. Because of the nature of my industry and our relatively young ages, I told him I wouldn’t be surprised if I wound up working with him somewhere within the next ten years anyway, and I looked forward to that within a company that respects its employees as much as he seems to.

    For those who don’t already know, HR exists to fuck the workers in order to benefit the company. Do not trust a goddamn thing HR says. Get everything documented. Record everything they say if it’s legal to do so in your state. If not, draft immediate, timestamped memos (like an email to yourself) of everything that just happened and was said, and be objective with your phrasing.