Try it with this search:
an entire block of smash car windows
I’ll have to test Searx, Grasp, & Kagi. Right now I start with DDG and bang out to Google (append !g to my DDG search) at least half the time.
So note to DDG devs: those Google bang searches had results that left me !
I am not a search engine engineer.
Here are some things it might be though:
It could be that the results you see first are cached on their servers, and expiring from that cache between your searches. however usually when something requested is pulled from a cache, the items lifespan in the cache is usually refreshed so it lives a bit longer.
It could be that certain they are NOT cached at all, and certain sites are rate limiting the DDG crawler hitting them and returning info to you, so DDG takes them out of the results as they cannot confirm the site is alive. I noticed reddit disappeared from the results and we all know about Reddit and their APIs here.
It could also be their ranking algorithm for results is not as deterministic as they want it to be, it could also be that way by design. Page ranking is a closely guarded trade secret, especially at big places like Google. DDG results will never match 1:1 with Google. Personally, I prefer DDGs results to Google.
Excellent analysis. Caching came to mind for me as well. Thank you for the interesting speculation!
Can anyone explain what happened DDG? They used to have very objective searching and now it is really targeted, which they claim they don’t do.
For example if I search a random term or product I will get a niche buy and sell website that only serves my country and with results from my immediate region. I do disable the location functionality and it just stays the same or switches them up but they’re there close to the top.
No issue here.
Thanks for testing. What did you try? Any of the same refreshing + intermixing completely clearing cache/cookies/history?
My environment: iPhone 14 Pro using Firefox Focus 120.0. Saw the same rearranging behavior in Orion on iOS as well.
Three users here (besides the hundred upvotes) noticed something similar: https://infosec.pub/comment/4407136
Same… it’s probably OP’s📱 phone
Is this to mean you believe DDG was presenting identical results with each refresh/new search, while my browser failed to properly display what was returned?
Or perhaps something else?
(I’m not an engineer, just doing my best heh - thanks)
I did see DDG doing different search but all within the three 1st searches. In the meantime the results on Yandex after refreshing were all the Same … Hope that helps you
Thank you!
I settled on SearXNG
I LOVE searxng!
I will never go back to any basic old search engine again.
I’m going to have to look into spinning a container later, sounds cool.
I am going to give SearXNG a try myself. It looks promising. I hadn’t heard of it before today, but I am setting up a container for it now.
Are you hosting it yourself?
Did not get to doing that yet, here’s a tutorial if you want to.
I think setting up a docker container would be easier no?
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I am if you have any questions
Are you running this through docker?
If possible, self-host SearxNG using Docker/Podman to avoid all of these.