Just Stop Oil protesters have been arrested after smashing the glass covering a Diego Velázquez painting at the National Gallery in London, as police detained dozens of others who blocked Whitehall.

Two activists targeted the glass on the Rokeby Venus painting with safety hammers before they were arrested on suspicion of criminal damage.

The artwork, which was painted by Velázquez in the 1600s, was slashed by the suffragette Mary Richardson in 1914. One of those involved on Monday said: “Women did not get the vote by voting; it is time for deeds not words.”

The Metropolitan police said at least 40 activists who were “slow marching” in Whitehall were also detained and that the road was clear after traffic was stopped for a brief period.

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    How about we start disrupting oil HQs and distribution centers? I feel like clogging supply chains will get more attention than destroying art.

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        It just seems the art approach makes them look bad. Maybe its time to take a jackhammer to major freeways instead. Dunno if thats better but at least its not completely out of the blue like damaging art.

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          Maybe its time to take a jackhammer to major freeways instead.

          Reclaim the streets did that on the Westway in London at a demo that I was at back in the '90s. They hid all the gear under gigantic carnival costumes and planted trees in the holes. You couldn’t hear the jackhammers due to the sound system.

          It was a great party - and it wasn’t the only time - but that didn’t work either.

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            I see how we arrived where we are then. Thank you. Though it is rather disheartening. There is a way somewhere.

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        Yeah theres a whole chain down here that explains the history. Sad to say the least.

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    These are essentially publicity stunts, right? They don’t think destroying art will decrease carbon emissions somehow?

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        I don’t necessarily agree that that is what’s displayed here. People care about the environment they do but that’s not the same as saying we don’t want people slashing paintings for no reason we can have both.

        It’s a completely ridiculous statement to suggest that you can only have one or the other and that in order to save the planet we have to destroy artwork.

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          Then maybe a better way to think about it for you would be like this:

          Why should we have nice things when we haven’t even done the basics? if you give yior kid dessert before dinner, they probably aren’t even gonna eat their dinner - people are mammals were naturally lazy.

          So what can we do to help it? Not have nice things until were not actively killing ourselves

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        No people just realize these people are morons. It has nothing to do with the destruction of the planet.

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      It is very clearly about publicity. You can’t get any message across unless you get someone’s attention in the first place.

      In this case, they are playing on the link back to the suffragettes.

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        Seems to me like they’re getting a net negative message across since they’re seen more as nuts. But I hope someone there has done the sociology analysis to see if it’s actually a net positive or negative impact on their cause.

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          There have been studies on this kind of thing. I don’t have the links to hand, but the upshot from the ones that I have seen IIRC is that it doesn’t generally cause many people to actually change their views from positive to negative or vice versa, but it does keep the issue in the news.

          Of course, in the wider perspective, no protests of this kind are ever going to work alone, but then that’s not the idea. They are never going to be happening alone either: there are always going to legal challenges, political movements, consumer pressure, boycotts and so on and so on alongside. The question is, which ones drive which others? Which wouldn’t happen without the others?

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            But if what they’re doing has a net negative perception to the cause, they’re hurting our chances of minimizing global warming, not helping it.

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                For real. Willful ignorance is one thing on its own but when the consequence of it is this catastrophic I’m not sure what to even call it.

                I recently had a conversation with a rural gentleman who said “we sure seem to be having some crazy weather lately” but calls climate change a liberal hoax. This conversation took place on the bank of a river that had just experienced something worse than a 1000 year flood. There had been 6 more houses within a stones throw of us less than a week ago. Now they were somewhere downstream along with the very ground on which their foundations had rested.

                This man is living the consequences of climate change more than most and yet he still refuses to see the problem for what it is. I have no idea what to call that other than lunacy.

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                Which is not the point that poster is trying to make.

                They’re basically asking “is this message effective or is it having a negative impact on the overall goal to the cause?” Whether people (jfc can’t believe I’m about to say this) don’t believe in climate change or not is a completely different conversation than the one being had here, which is talking about whether this group is doing good or not. I would say it’s overall helping because any attention is actually good attention if you’re smart enough to capitalize on it and present an argument or statement in an attempt to change people’s minds.

                Can you try contributing instead of being a Redditor and saying general and slightly on-topic shit for some sick upvotes?

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                And that has what to do with destroying art? Fuck those people, they deserve no beauty in their lives, and neither do you if you stand with them.

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      As far as I can tell they don’t have a cohesive goal. In theory yeah they are publicity stunts, but so what? No one really disagrees with them. Most members of the public do agree that climate change is a problem, the issue is corporations and governments.

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        That’s unfair. Our well paid leaders don’t have a cohesive plan. Let’s hold them to that standard and not the protesters who are actually worried about the future.

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        We need to be nuisances or else we will be ignored. Being disruptive is the best tool we have to pressure the government and the rich into helping to fight climate change.

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          Being disruptive is the best way to get them to crack down on you. Why would they decide to fight climate change because of disruptions like this?

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            This isn’t trying to get people to join the cause, it’s a show of force. This is what we’re capable of, and we’re not backing down until we get what we want.

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              Anyone is capable of sneaking a hammer into an art gallery, if that’s what they’re capable of, the people in power have nothing to fear.

              If you start getting into higher capability demonstrations, you very quickly get into terrorism territory.

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        likely to turn people on the fence away from their cause

        I hear this a lot, but what does it practically mean? As in, how will fence-sitters act differently in a way that will harm the world more? Genuine question.

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    I dont understand these people. If you have a problem you dont solve it by wrecking art. You have to go straight to the politicians. Stage a protest in front of the capital or something. You have to be more agressive and direct.

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    I completely agree that oil needs to be stopped and that it is destroying our planet.

    That being said I hate what these idiots are doing so unbelievably much. Absolutely nothing warrants the destruction of art or even the attempt. Hell, I don’t even like the fact that the Confederate statues are being destroyed. Move them to museums where they can serve as examples of our past and the mistakes we made as a society.

    This is a dumb protest by dumb people that leads only to their words being ignored because the actions they are committing are dumb.

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        The Earth is an infinitely more beautiful and more important price of art. I don’t think there’s much that isn’t worth destroying to save it (though we shouldn’t have to).

        Creating outrage is historically an important part of effecting change.

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    Protest don’t work. They don’t care. Nobody does.

    Death is the only option.

    Full on riots and strike action. Everyone stops. Ceos are removed by force.

    This is war. Sitting doing nothing as the world burns