• dtlm@feddit.org
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    In Spain its also forbidden to own beaches. You can wander any beach with no restriction.

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      In Estonia, one may not prevent passage along the beach of a body of water (sea, lake, river).

      Some land owners try. It’s legal to ignore them and travel along the shore, but if a river valley is densely settled and every tenth person has built a fence too far, it becomes somewhat harder to fish there.

      As for dry land - if it’s not fenced in, then from dawn to dusk, without damaging crops or landscape, one is allowed to roam on foot, with a bike or boat, on skis or riding a horse.

      Unless the owner forbids:

      • by default, it’s allowed to set up a tent for up to 24 hours
      • by default, it’s allowed to pick the fruit and herbs of naturally growing plants and mushrooms (not planted or sown) and fallen wood

      Making a fire is another matter. For this, getting the agreement of the owner is required. It’s also totally forbidden by fire departments at certain times.

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    Some countries have it, not all or even most. Sweden is not representative of the entirety of Europe.

    In Greece you arent even allowed to camp outside of very limited designated camp sites(though laws in Greece are more like suggestions, so many people still go camping in forests).

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      Tbf, from first hand experience i can say people are fucking animals when it goes to camping. We used to have places where it was tolerated but people shat and pissed everywhere. Left their garbage behind, food waste attracted animals etc.

      People are unbelievable stupid, so they kinda had to ban it and force that ban.

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        i can say people are fucking animals when it goes to camping

        It took me reading the rest of your comment, and a lot of thought, before I realized you were using the word “fucking” as some kind of intensifier instead of as the word for “having sex with.”

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      In Greece you arent even allowed to camp outside of very limited designated camp sites

      Same in Germany

      though laws in Greece are more like suggestions

      Not same in Germany 😅

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    Is the right to roam really worth the loss of the fundamental freedom to shoot someone who steps on your lawn?

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      The reason people don’t like people wandering onto their land is the usa…is getting sued. The amount of lawyers here which will take a case for anyone or any reason is insane. Even if the person knows they won’t win, you who are getting sued, is going to lose money and time because you’re going to need to pay a lawyer to make sure you don’t lose your clothes by the sueing party.

      It sucks, thankfully we have a ton of parks…for now.

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        The vast majority of land isn’t open access though. Most woodlands and fields are privately owned and you are not allowed to walk through them.

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          We have public right of way, so you can definitely walk through them.

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            Only if there is a public footpath through it. Otherwise you are trespassing if you don’t have the land owners permission

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                You would typically walk around the edge of it, but you don’t have permission to do that either and we don’t have the right to roam here. Also not all land is agricultural fields, pasture and woodland for example.

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        I know, this is why I said England rather than UK. Not sure on Wales/NI. Either way, not really a practical option to get there.

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    English title and German text? That’s bad. You shouldn’t do that. Go stay in the corner.

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    Great content, as someone who “stealth camps” often I would love that openness. Thank you for sharing.